Special Guest Big Perm

Count money man, money that grits us

I'm trying to try and told them I'm a beast, but

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What's up gang welcome to another episode of the grind cast in this already starting we already started out with a laugh

Because we got all this massive man over here next to me big peak

What's up everybody in the house?

Podcast was going on brother glad to have you on here. Thanks for having me man. Come on awesome

So so we could you know start out some of y'all do knows maybe some of you guys don't know but

Big perm is is one of my

oldest childhood friends

Like he got pictures of me in my diapers

Absolutely, but you're not for sale if you want them call me, you know, you would too

Always 100,000 maybe

Let me let me start out with what would introduce and you know kind of everybody to you through just casual conversation

So why don't we start off tell people you know where you where you grew up and and what the lifestyle was like

You know when when we were around each other. Yeah. Yeah. Well I grew up here youngstano high old air street

my whole life

We call it brick city. That's where the only street around the east side is still bricks

So we call it brick city. We I came up in a

Pretty pretty bad day, you know the main with with a lot of violence, you know

drugs, you know stuff like that, but but

We just you know, we're blessed to be what we're here at right now

When I was I think I

13

14 started doing a couple things that wasn't you know

Well, we should be doing but at the time. That's what we had to do because you know, they weren't paying nothing

You know, I'm saying minimum wage was $4

You know, I'm saying how could we

Provide some guys and and get some nice clothes with $4 you know, I'm saying we can't do that

So that's the things that we did speaking of gas. You know, I remember

You know us you were the first one to have a car. Yeah, you were the one to drove. Yep, and we would all pitch in

You know like we would come up with I think a dollar or two dollar dollar piece a dollar a dollar or two and that would get us

That would get us around we go to the mall and you would have the you know, I think one of my

Cool memories is you had this

purple

purplish pink

Parisian with the chain with the chain steering with us and the back seat

Removed

Never it didn't stop us from sitting in the back seat

We would pile in any way that we could get in where you fit in and

Man, I swear you know, I think you had the loudest system

That I knew of I mean I could hear you coming from from blocks away. Yeah, you know what I mean literally and so I think you know

I would come over your place and in your house and we would sit and it was so much action

Going on you know back in in the summer, you know when it gets hot everything got hot, you know, we could get everything out there from

music

amps

speakers

sweepers

Television's toasters. Yeah, I think I bought all of those

On the on the street over there and even to the point where I know that you know as a young we don't have to get too deep into it

But I know as a young as a young person

You witnessed many

Shootouts and

Murders, you know and and I think you were even at one point we're on a stand

Talking about a possible

Situation that you saw at a young age, you know 1314 years old. So what when did you know it was time to?

kind of leave that

Life alone, you know that leave leave the hood so to speak well I left when I was 19 I

knew

A lot of things man, you know, we talked about the prison which we did had a pink parisian

You know, we used to bang no back seat. We wrote deep, you know what I'm saying?

We was at the civil dollar having a ball, you know a lot of us

The car on these posts are set four or five. We had probably 12, you know the main how do we do that?

Don't know you just kept it moving never got pulled over, you know what I mean?

but

Took from from leaving there

You know, I just realized that I thought there was a better life for me

Oh, you know the mean because all of my friends and all of my people was just

It was just a lot of things happening to them, you know the mean and I felt like I had a conversation one day when when I was leaving

I was leaving jail and I was walking home and

A cop came to my porch and sat down and just said you know, I don't know what you're doing. I don't know, you know

You know if you kind of want this life, but if you look up the street everyone's getting ready to doing bad things

And you seem like a great kid great guy, you know

You need to do what's better for you and try to do you know move forward and right then in there

I just I took that to Eden. I

I decided to just move because if I didn't move who would have known what would have happened

You know the mean so I moved for the better. So that's why I moved from young son, but the young son is one of the best days of my life

You know the mean I've had the best days of my life in young son with all my friends you you know me like I said you know

Never kind of grew taller still the same site the same height apologize same site same height kind of looks like the same

You know the mean but yeah, man. It's it's gonna amazing being here man

You know, I know the one thing I wanted to do was

Test the stability

In the sturdiness of these chairs here, you know in case before we had any other guests and one thing is for sure

That these chairs are

Officially a hundred percent stable and secure for anybody that wants to come on the show

I appreciate that because we tested it out right now. We about about four five hundred bills and we're good here

And it's good good. I feel great good to go. I feel good. What would you say is?

Your best memory of this is what we've been doing yeah

20-some yeah almost 30 years. Oh, yeah, it's cutting big and small joke. Yeah, big e-small

Tim but Simone

In a book boom. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so what's what's

What's what's some memories man that come up to you of us growing up positive and negative positive good in

Good and not so good

positive

You're always you you you for for some reason I don't know why but you were the center of attention

Everyone loved you that's for sure for certain everyone

Everyone gravitated towards you. I don't know what you've always smelled good

I think that was probably the thing you just smelled great

The the the the the good times we had man

Riding around like he always talks about this grand am purple with the chandelier music in the back

You know that type of stuff I

Enjoyed life with you guys, you know, I mean we we have a bond that's that that can never be broken

You know, I mean and and and and you know like the bad for you like I'm gonna say you just never got big

I don't maybe you didn't eat too many weedies like me because I always kept it big but I'm getting smaller now, you know, I'm saying or

Went from a 5x to a 4x I appreciate that you said that live on there on there. Thank you guys

Everybody knows that from a 5 to a 4 I'm doing good guys. I'm doing a wonderful. Thank you. Appreciate that boss

Two X you go from big perm to medium

It's going to be on sand

Come on. Yeah, I think you know what recently unfortunately, I know you know, I had a chance to come see your family at

You know, it's good to see everybody, but not for you know, good reason your grandmother passed away

And I got to see your mom and some of your family and it just sparked my

Just a reminder, you know of how special I think your mom is and and

My mom and you know Giovanni's mom just you know a lot of us grew up without having a father in our life

Right, you know, and you know, you got to meet mine, you know, and I met him at 28, you know, 27 28 years old

And I but we didn't have that you know growing up. So, you know, you know, you had what four brothers four brothers

Ernie but you know Adam and me

You know, so four four kids told yeah, four boys so three brothers. Yeah, four boys three brothers four boys

So his mom had four boys. Yep

on the east side of youngstown east side, bro, and

You know, I think all the y'all are great people man, you know good people that ain't easy

You know, I mean that ain't easy. What what do you and where you grew up?

You know, I grew up on the east side too, but on a separate right over to on the other side

You know, it was a five minute bike ride. Yeah, you know to your house

But where you grew up was like the hot zone the street was the the hottest street in that area at one point and

Literally, how did you you know, what do you think your mom did to try to keep everybody?

You know straight, you know, you got these boys, you know a couple big-ass boys, man

It's unbelievable to watch your mom, you know, she's cute

You know she went about four four to eleven, you know the man I don't know how something is

I know something like that, but you know, she's able to she was able to do it do a good job, man

I see see some of you guys doing well Ernie's doing well

You know, what do you think stands out that she did in the middle of not having to turn the money?

Having four boys in the middle of the war zone, you know

When I feel like that area in youngstown was at its hottest, you know

Anything that you see that she did

that maybe

You're still here today because you know many a lot of people we yeah around any here. No, I think I think I

She was really about family and trying to you know trying to keep a good heart in us

And not trying to look forward to going towards the other side because you know and in that time you can always go wrong or right and

We always my mom and my great we our whole family lived on the street. So, you know was my mother

Like four houses up from my aunt my aunt was four houses down my other arm was four houses down my grandmother

So it was like six of us on one street

I could never do nothing wrong because she would my grandmother caught me my aunt caught me

I mean, but they were all watching us so I think that there helped us become and put us in the right direction

Versus going towards a wrong way and love, you know what I mean my grandmother showed us so much love

You know you couldn't come in that house without you know

We say Benny's young that means you know how are you doing? You know I'm saying it and we coming that house without saying that

It was a problem and I think being like that and being family oriented and having our whole family on that street

I think helped me and our family go towards the right because all my family is in church and you know

That's what they do and they helped us go the right route, you know the means so I think that was that was huge for us

Having a whole family on the whole street. So that was huge

We was so close to the fire

Yeah, you know, it's like I look back on things and and

You know I'll go as far as you want to go, you know on this thing, you know, but you know I just

I remember being in in situations that I look back on now and I'm like I don't even know how I'm still here

Right, I don't know how you know I remember you know

One of us, you know

Problem is when you got a lot of people that you're close to you know

We used to we we create our own little gang. Yeah, you know there wasn't really we weren't a game

We were but we weren't right right we just we just it just created that and so you are you got 10 20 30 people

You cool with now you got 10 20 30 people that can have a problem and now everybody's supposed to support that right situation

and you know outside of you know me being in

Juvenile, you know making consistent stops at

JJC, you know, I think I think how you doing? I think how you know, I think back to moments where you know

I'm in a situation where

Somebody got robbed were at the house at midnight

With guns looking for people, you know the main and and

Me you've been robbed a gunpoint. Yes, I've been robbed a gunpoint. It's not a good feeling before yeah, and

it's just

You know almost everybody

That we roll with coming up, you know, there was

guns involved, you know

You were it was just normal and I was telling me and you were talking to like man

I look back on some of the things we were doing and as good of a job as your mom was doing and my mom was doing the best job

They could possibly do

I mean we was bad you know straight up and but young's town was so bad at the time that

Our bad wasn't even that bad compares to what other cats was doing right what other people was

All right, you saw a little bit of dope got a gun you pistol up somebody that's no big deal

You're fine. Hey, hey, don't worry about that. You know, he's not that bad. What if he's gone that's all good?

You did great, man, you should go you know, so did you ever think that?

You know, you look back on that, you know

I know we're blessed to be here

Did you ever think that we would be in this position? You know right now like where we would go through the airport and and

You get frisk 95% of the time by TSA you know, I mean you have the highest

Closing ratio, I think with walking through TSA anybody that watches it follows when we travel everybody knows the first thing

I do when I get through the line is I hurry up and get my phone and I start taping and

We we 90 plus percent of the time you end up with the pat down. Yeah, you end up with the right

Spread them. Yeah, you want me to do this here? Do you want me to go somewhere else?

You know, you're gonna go ahead and do it right here

But you found out that how does it feel to get pat it down all the time at the airport?

Well, we well we found out and and and and and and me traveling with mr. Aries that

It's definitely not randomly. It's not random. It's not a random check because it's cons it's consistent

So right now I'm at 99 what night

90% over this leave me not not not an attempt. I'm always there is no way that you are picking me out of a line

Randomly every time but I do appreciate it though because you do I mean you're making me huge on a look a little

God I'm me right I mean he's up to something

What are you doing here could it be the beard? I don't I don't know, but it's definitely something man

He enjoys it. He likes to just laugh at me like he's laughing now. That's my favorite my favorite thing to do

That's what we do. I love it man. So a couple questions for you

You know

You being in in in this type of business and you you're working hard and and you know

Who motivates you

To do what you do?

You know like who who gives you the strength to to because you motivate you move mountains so so so

Who does that for you? Man? I got a lot of places that I pull motivation a lot

first is is is

God you know

I feel like I pull a lot of my inspiration and motivation from just my spirit being connected with with the Lord and

Because I noted I'm playing with house money, you know

I just I just know I shouldn't really be here. There's people that did less and they're not here and

I feel like I owe so much to God

To others to use some of the gifts that I that I've been given so you know that that inspires me

I'm inspired by

TD Jakes and I listen to TD Jakes Steven Fertic inspires me John Maxwell inspires me Jim Trussell inspires me to be a better man

And a better person

Jim Sarace my my first mentor that that kind of got my mind and my spirit right Marcus

Smith has been there for me, you know the throughout the whole process of this thing

But I'm motivated by my family, you know, I'm motivated by my wife

My kids my mom. I'm motivated by the kids that inspire minds, you know that you know because that ain't easy

You know that that's a lot of work and every time I go and see those kids

It inspires my mind and it inspires me

Having my friends in this business, you know you and Giovanni and and others people that I know are relying on me

to

Elevate this place and to have success so we all can do better that inspires me that motivates me

having people's lives in my hands looking at you know

People in our business that have their own children their own wives, you know all of that motivates me and

And inspires me man, so I you know I I haven't had that question in a long time and so I didn't realize I had so many places that I pull

Motivation from because I could just you know I could keep going now. That's why I just wake up. Yeah fire boom

Boom, I love to watch you wake up to by the way at five fifteen you know what I'm your mat look excellent. Let's see here

Couple questions. Let me see here

When

Did you realize the young age that you had a way with words like when when did you know?

That that you knew that you can speak and people will listen to you like when did you you know

I think I learned to think fast when we used to rap. Yeah, I said that I just told this guy that and so much of it is and

You know when you see the way I dress and walk now

You know I remember the transition remember the transition. Oh, yes, I started to have some success in business

Yes, and you were coming to visit me. Yes, and I had to break the news

Yes, you did you said man listen man

Spare it with me just come to the room. I got to wear these pants you tight pants now

He's tight tight pants. He didn't say that

I got to let you know he said listen man. Just I started wearing tight pants tighter pants

He said I got to wear these tighter pants. I said all right

Well, let me see it because what we would do is all the time is you would get dressed and I would come and see

And I would kind of like approve it like yo that's dope. We good, you know what I mean or bruh that ain't gonna work

So but you did well, well keep going sir. Yeah

Who was we even talking about pants the pack yeah, you came we came to Cleveland. Oh, you were

Transition. Yeah, so you were asking me, you know, we're

You know, we were talking about I think I started to learn how to speak

Like that how to think on my toes just from we were always rapping at a young age

Yeah, I think that helped

And then I think I got I got blessed with being in a

Rough environment, you know, I really I grew up on the east side. I went stood in welfare lines with my mom and my goofy plasm

But then she would drop me off in Camor my grandmother's to watch me

When she would go to work and then my grandmother and my grandfather and my mother and everybody would pitch in

To try to get me in a better school system

So they end up sending me to Ursula which was a Catholic school in in in youngstown for high school and

I think having that balance of which I hated my first year. I didn't want to go to Ursula

Yeah, that was like why I want to go to East. I know

Why are you doing this to me right right and she was like either I'm moving you completely out of here right because you're a menace right or

Or you're going Ursula. Yeah, and as much as I hated it

It gave me the perfect balance because I already knew how to function in the streets

I already knew how to talk. I knew the it's a whole different language. I knew how to function there

Well then I learned and I also learned how to

empathize and relate to people that if you unless you're on the inside and you've been there

You just think all these people are just trash, you know, they're just a piece of shit

Everybody did just unless you come up in it and get it is hard to get it

So I understand why people don't get it because I wouldn't have been able to get it if I wasn't in it

Right, you know what I mean? But it gave me that perspective and then I also

Went to Ursula and then it started to give me another perspective and I started to learn I had to

Try to fit in and function a little bit with those type of families and you know people with that

Act different talk different dress different, you know and and stuff like that

So I think that you know, I learned how to talk and and shake it up and switch it up for being in so many different

Environments, but I think I learned how to hustle at a young age and that did have transferable skills

In the business, you know, I think you guys, you know, you I don't know which one of you are Freddie

I don't know who nicknamed me when I was young, but you know

Everyone yeah, yeah, we we said yeah, well the nickname for him was little luchi

Everyone wants to know because we knew

He was always had a bread. You know I said that's the money, you know the mean that's he was always we knew it

You know the mean you always had a nice Jerry Kerr when he was young too. Yeah

Kick it case I didn't know that that about him. You know, I think I you know one of the things that that that

Paid off I think I remember my mom for Christmas. She would always take us she would take me to

Canfield to see the nice houses because we didn't we didn't decorate the house. We didn't have any

You know nobody really decorated and and she took me to get off they had been gone

Like to go. I'm sorry cars gone everything's gone. I think our car got stolen out of the driveway

Three times the the

We drove to Canfield and she would take me

in the

Nice homes and I would look at these homes and I'm like damn

What the hell did these people do? I want one of these, you know, and I started to get that ambition of like

You know and and you know thank God I bumped into American income and Jim Saracen and

Legit because you know that that that that that

50 cent came out with it was get richer die trying yeah

Like I think that was the mode I was on I was like

Where are you they're gonna get richer? I'm a die trying. That's right. You know, that's right and

I didn't die you didn't die. I mean so

I'm glad I went the other direction

What else you got for me?

You been on a lot of things man. I'm so so I mean with being you know

Because you know we all say that me and you were where we were mom were we baby mom were mom was boys, you know what I mean

When did you know like your mom?

How tough was your mom on you when you were young like how how did she do it for you like because you were a

Firecracker, you know what I mean? So how does he get you to calm down and and and what did you take from that because you are I mean you

You know, I think I think she just she was relentless with

caring

Love not giving up on me and at parts of my life where I felt like a kamikaze where you know there was points where I just I feel like the only

Percentage of me that gave us shit was because I didn't want something to happen to me for her

That's right, you know to me. I just I knew she couldn't bear it. So I didn't want to put that on her, but in my mind I

Didn't I didn't care as much, you know what I mean? I just I just wanted to I was down for I was ready to gamble whatever you know

I mean I was cool with whatever the consequence, but then I just I would think of her and

It would it would keep me from that last

Extra percentage of what probably would have put me over over the top

So I think you know that sticks out the most you know she was hard on me for sure

But it's only so hard. I think a woman could be on a man. You know what I mean like

Yep hard, but not hard enough like I needed I needed a NAS weapon. Yeah, you know what I mean?

I needed I needed a male in my life

Like that that would be able to and I got you know, I got

People's parents that looked out for me. I got my grandfather was in my life and but but different you know I

I

Plan sports save me you know plan plan football remember my eighth grade year

Was the year that I said I was gonna retire from playing sports

So and I loved it. I was good at it. I loved it and I remember I was at my grandmother's house and my my

Grandma's husband who became

Who I considered my grandfather? He said nah, we're going I'm signing you you're playing football. You don't have an option

And I needed that you know to me like I respected him. I didn't want to you know, he was tough

You know you put on the boxing shows so it was hard nose and like all right

He's done a lot for me. He's like not your plan. You don't have an option. It's the first time I seen a mad at me

Like you're playing so he drops me off to coach Rowland Smith who was

You know somebody that would

oversee

the juvenile justice center and

Years later I actually was locked up in juvenile where coach Smith would come let me out of myself and and try to talk to me

But that was my coach. That was it. So he drops me off to him as a freshman

eighth grade going into you know that summer and

Man, I changed me that that that that's that saved me

You know, I still wasn't good right by any means right in high school

But it kept me busy it kept me focused on something and you know

Ultimately, we ended up winning a state championship and it would send me to college and I would get out of that environment

Completely which I needed right, you know as bad as I wanted to play at youngstown state

It was better that I didn't play at youngstown state because I

Would have been caught up in the same old stuff, you know

so me getting outside and and going to Mercyhurst and playing football there

I think was a game changer and they got me around other influences again

Another chance for me because there's a difference between

youngstown

people, you know in the suburbs

They're still from youngstown. That's right

They still from youngstown and and and then me getting out of there and I meet friends that grew up on a farm

And you know all this type of stuff

So again, it gave me an opportunity to meet people and learn how to function in an environment that I knew nothing about

Which would end up helping me and making me more well-rounded in business to where I could you know

Take somebody that grew up in inner city or I could take somebody grew up in the country and understand them both and connect with them

Them both because I was able to walk in so many different people's shoes

You know, I think that was that was that was probably a big big part of the transition into having success

For sure, man

Definitely where where we came from and what you worked hard for I mean from from being in in college

You didn't know when the deal was gonna be right at you you just knew when you left college

You you didn't know what you were gonna do you just so so take us a little bit back then so when you left college

What did you like what was it you just I'm a mountain you just yeah, I was Trent

You know, I I got an interview the last couple months with the company that I'm with now and that was

15 years ago almost and

I

knew when I met the person you know that the good thing is when you grow up fast you get a sense of how to read people

and

When I met Marcus Smith who did my interview I

knew that he was real, you know, they say real recognize real I knew that he was real and

I knew that he was

Doing what he said he was doing and and and that and was having a lot of success and I could relate to him

You know, I think people are first attracted to the person before they're attracted to the company

And so I was attracted to the vibe of of Marcus first. So I said I don't want to come out and

work with Marcus and

Marcus will tell the story on how I first came in to the office

I mean you could just tell that I had

left you know, I had experience in

Hustling by the car that I pulled up in in the way that I pulled up and Marcus tells it all the time and

It's

That's that saved me because

And I'm being real my mind was so much and and you know and I think people know now my heart has changed

I've matured you can't tie me to what I felt like a 20 years old right with no with no upbringing

You know to guide me like that to somebody that's 36 years old now, right, but at that time I

Wanted to make money. I just wanted to frickin make money. I was tired of being I didn't want to be broke anymore

So I was

literally at a point where coming out of college not much was going to change.

I was getting ready to do the same things that I was always accustomed to doing.

And when I found American income and I found Marcus and that culture, it first changed

me because I was able to make a good income my first year.

And you know, I made over six figures my first year, 22 years old.

And then I started to get turned on to growing my spirit.

You know, Jim Sarace was a youth pastor.

So he started to work with me a little bit on my spirit, which is why you see me work

with other people on their spirit.

And I was so adamant about it because it frickin' changed my life.

And then Marcus, you know, was somebody that I could relate to, connect to him like,

man, this dude's driving rain drovers, making a ton of money, got tattoos, but he's

listening to Tupac and he goes to church.

I'm like, this is, I can do this.

You know what I mean?

Like I used to think there was this separation of, okay, either you had to be completely

dorky in my eyes or you had to be completely on the other end, wiling out.

There was no, like, all right, I can still listen to Pock and still go to church.

So, okay, you know what I mean?

I could still have a hoodie on and in some tennis shoes and still be in business.

You know what I'm sorry.

We gotta say, it's how fast it is.

Where does that star buzz come from?

As long as GameCab are out of like that.

Pugh!

Go ahead.

Like that.

So, that's how the transition happened.

You know, Perm, and that's all I've done.

And that's what I've done my whole life.

And then with this company, we've ended up opening up other businesses and other things.

And, you know, I wanted to make sure that, you know, you could talk about this.

You know there was a period of time where I didn't see you or talk to you for a couple

of years.

I didn't talk to Giovanni.

I talked to him for a couple of years.

And it was just that separation.

And I just had to cut myself off from the world to get my mind completely right.

Because I liked it too much.

I liked us to freak black mouths.

I liked to, you know, do things.

And I had to just work and engulf myself and entrench myself with being obsessed with

being successful.

But in always in the back of my mind, part of my motivation was, I'm gonna make it.

And when I make it to the point where I feel comfortable enough where I know that I really

made it and I can, then I can grab my dudes and if they're willing to work and they're

willing to do something, then we can all be together.

Right.

Right.

Right.

And that's why we're able to spend time.

I don't just spend time.

We spend time and we're grinding.

Right, we're grinding.

What's it like when we hit the road?

Oh, man.

I mean, why don't you talk about that?

Oh, man.

Jesus Christ.

For work and business.

What is it like?

It's a lot, man.

You know, I always say this.

I always tell you this.

I say, man, people don't know exactly what you do.

Like, you know, when you say you're up at 5 a.m., and you don't see it.

I see it because I'm with them all day.

When you're hitting the gym and you're coming, we have to change in less than three minutes

to be at a certain place at a certain time.

We're flying from here.

It's a job.

It is a job.

We're traveling from, we did Greenville in one day, 24 hours.

We did it.

Oh, yeah.

South Carolina.

Yeah.

24 hours.

And was back at it the next day.

Like, not even happy.

Didn't even miss a beat.

So yeah, it is, it is a grind to be out there with Mr. Aries.

I appreciate that, man.

You know what I mean?

Going back to your school at Erson, I probably know why you didn't want to go there because

you couldn't wear them nice clothes.

You have to be a certain one, certain fit.

And we know how much you like to dress seven days a week.

You know what I'm saying?

Eight days a week.

So yeah, man.

It's a grunt, man.

I understood why you had to, you know, at first I didn't know when you, when you left

and why you didn't call or, or, or, or, or, or Danis, Katyn, never got time or, you

know, the main he, he was like, you know, you know, I didn't realize that how much work

and how much, and, and how much, what you needed to do to get yourself right in order

to, to help anybody else.

So you have to help yourself take care of yourself first to take care of body, anybody

who you want to.

I realized that at the time of being in this business with you is crazy.

Like you, you are a animal.

You are nonstop.

You are in this game.

You are our eight and our 24.

You are our Kobe in this game.

You know what I mean?

Rest in peace, Kobe.

That is what you are in this game.

And I see it, man.

And I appreciate you, dog.

I appreciate you too.

You know what I'm saying?

You know, I think when, when we're out doing it, it's like it means more to me that

y'all get to be a part of it and see it happening.

You know what I mean?

Because it's hard to really appreciate what's really going on unless you know what went

on.

You know what I mean?

Absolutely.

And you can appreciate it.

But when I look at you or when I look at your, when we look at each other, it's like,

man, holy shit.

It's a long way.

Is this the same life?

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

You know what I mean?

How did this even happen?

How?

You know what I mean?

And so we get to share those moments of like, it was all a dream.

It was all a dream, man.

You know what I mean?

It was all a dream.

That's why every time that I'm blessed to grace the stage and get recognized for the

company on behalf of the people that I lead, I always come out to it was all a dream.

Yep.

All the time.

Juicy.

You know, because that summarizes it all.

It's hard for me to listen to the whole thing without getting choked up.

Still, I can't, it's hard to get through it because it says it all.

I mean, just, it, that, there it is.

There it is.

I mean, there it is.

That's it.

And so I think just to be here with you and and and Giovanni and people that I came up

with, you know, the just is special, you know, to me.

And the best is yet to come.

The best is yet to come.

Lord, Lord willing, you know, we ain't promised tomorrow.

And, you know, just, but just Lord willing, man, there's, we're at the very worst of times.

This is the bottom.

This is as bad as it's going to get.

Last of the drips.

We're, we're getting ready to go to, we're getting ready to go to a whole, now the level.

And you know it, you know, I talked to you about it all the time.

This is getting ready to, everything is getting ready to double.

Everything is getting ready.

Everything is getting ready to double.

And we're just going to help and bless so many people.

And, and you know, I want to let you know that the people that you've impacted, man,

I saw one of the kids and one of the ladies from Inspire Mines actually was at your grandmother

I preached.

Yes, that was amazing.

And they got something coming, you know, for you.

You know, that's how much love the people already have for you and your heart and the impact

that you're making that the kids know, you know, the people in the program know it's, it's

life familiar.

You know, this is, this is family dog.

And I just, I appreciate you.

And I'm excited about, can I get a commitment on air life?

Oh no.

Can I get a commitment?

No, what is it, man?

He's trying to, you know, what?

You've been dating.

Oh.

Okay.

You've been with, pressure, you've been with pressures.

I see you, I, precious, you've been with precious.

We all grew up together.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

For what, 24 years, 25, 25 years.

You moved in when she was 17, 17.

And since she was a beautiful 12.

Beautiful.

Don't date that 12, but since 12.

Yeah.

And so I think this year we were trying to plan out just making it official.

It's already your, your wife mentally, invariably and all of that.

But yeah, we, we, are we getting this thing done this year?

What?

Yes, we're, yeah, we're trying to get this marriage done.

Yes.

And I get a commitment.

That is commitment.

We're trying to get this done here.

Yeah.

For sure.

I love you, bro.

I love watching you be a dad.

Thank you.

You're a great father.

Thank you.

You are too.

You're a great man.

To, to precious.

And I appreciate having you around.

You know, at first, I didn't know what I was going to do with you.

You know, it's like, I just want to, you know, we don't know if we can put him anywhere.

You don't know if we could be with a family cause.

We have to fly in the air.

We go ahead.

We have to, we have first class now.

I don't know.

What are we going to do, man?

I don't know.

Go ahead.

I don't know what we're going to do, man.

Something like, but here's where we're going to do.

Here's where we're not going to do.

You're not going to be on the street.

Yeah, we ain't going to be, we're going to figure this out.

Right.

You come over here and we start out, you're making juices to help that adds value.

Keeps healthy.

Then you've verified the deals.

Then you start taking care of me.

When we travel, we got a system now.

Yeah, it's a system.

Driving, making sure I ain't recintecting, you know, all of that stuff.

And then I get a free, you know, I get a free bodyguard.

You know, this is, you know, the, not only do I get a companion,

people think you're, you're my bodyguard.

That's why we can't be going too much further down on the excess.

For X to the three X to X.

That's it.

We got to go back up to fight.

No, you know, I'm all about you getting healthy.

I know that, bro.

People are like, man, I'm like, yeah, I just, you know, he been my dude.

He been big his whole life.

My whole life.

So I just got an extra bodyguard fit in there.

But I just, it's just great, man.

I appreciate you and I look forward to the future.

Yep.

And I'm glad that everybody got to be introduced to Jose Caldron.

Yep.

Big perm, big perm.

Big perm, a little luchy back at it.

Thanks for joining us on another episode of The Grind.

Get ready.

It's a new day.

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Money, money, that gritches.

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