Special Guest Isaac Greeley

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And we got the man to myth the legend in the house.

My dog brother Isaac Greeley representing the mat factory.

And it's just a brother in Christ and help so many many people

in the Pittsburgh area and outside of Pittsburgh area.

Welcome to the grind cast studio.

My dog.

Oh, it's a pleasure to be here honored.

So so Isaac, many of you in the area know Isaac,

but for those of you that are outside of the Pittsburgh area

and don't know Isaac, Isaac was an all American wrestler,

a national finalists team, I think was national champ.

You were at a pit, Johnstown, right?

In college two times.

Beautiful.

And then Pan Am champ in Jiu-Jitsu, Black Belt beast in Jiu-Jitsu.

And I'm a brown belt in Jiu-Jitsu.

And there's levels to everything.

And he's such a high level Black Belt.

Like Black Belt, there should be another level.

He would be that color, whatever the color is.

He makes me feel like a white belt.

But I know your passion in addition to being on the mats

is also, I feel like you even have more fun coaching young folks

and even grown men.

And so coaching, I know you've coached multiple state champions,

also national champions, multiple UFC fighters,

multiple Bellator fighters.

And you've been coaching at Barrel, right?

Is it Barrel or Barrel?

Barrel for 18?

Yes.

18 years.

And I think what 15 consecutive section,

Whipio, this is it?

Whipio titles and a bunch of people

have come out of there and went on to do big things.

I know you've had Olympic wrestlers and stuff

that you've coached and all of that stuff.

So where did all of this start?

Give me a little background of your upbringing

and history and kind of how we got to this point today.

I'd say that I grew up in a small town

and probably the most rural part of Pennsylvania,

near Potter County, McKean County.

And just great people up there, honest, hard working,

blue collar upbringing.

My parents worked shift work and a glass factory in the town.

I had five brothers and sisters.

I was one of five.

So we didn't have a lot of time to spend on athletics

and extracurricular activities.

So I remember asking my mom when I was nine,

if I could wrestle.

And she said, sure, if you can get a ride home, that'd be great.

So luckily, one of my neighbors, what made you want to wrestle?

They brought trophies into the auditorium for a thing.

And I was like, what's that?

And they said, this is what you get when you win.

I want to trophy.

I want one of those.

Hi.

Yeah, so that got my entrance sparked.

And luckily, one of my neighbors,

and I mean a neighbor, it's like half a mile away

where I grew up, was a junior high wrestling coach.

So I started going to the practices

and staying for his practices.

And that's how I got started with wrestling.

But just grew up in a great community.

I love my hometown.

I still have my wrestling camp.

I do every year back in my hometown.

It's a special place.

Is that the nonprofit?

Yeah, thank you.

That's my way of going.

Okay, so you got the nonprofit wrestling camp

back in your hometown?

Yes.

What's the name of that?

It's a Bruno Irifido Scholarship Wrestling Camp.

Team Bruno's our nickname for short.

Where did you come up with the team Bruno thing?

So Bruno was another small town kid,

Ridgeway, Pennsylvania.

It's a small community not far from where I was.

I knew Bruno since he was a little kid.

He grew up a very successful wrestler.

He was wrestling at UPJ.

It's kind of like under my wing.

I was like one of his uncles, so to speak.

And he was an all-American in his junior year

going into a senior year, clean living kid,

religious, just perfect kid.

And he was really wrestling unbelievable.

And him and I had a goal for him to be a national champion.

And that summer he was involved in an auto accident

that he lost his life.

And he had always volunteered to work my wrestling camps

that we started in 96.

And so I think it was 15, 16 years ago we decided

to once that happened, 2002.

We switched it to the team Bruno wrestling camp,

made it into a nonprofit.

Love it.

We've had a lot of fun with it.

Love it.

Now you're what folks, what's amazing

is you're a chiropractor by trade, right?

Yes.

You're a doctor technically.

Yes.

You're a doctor.

Dr. On and off the mat.

So it's cool because my setup, I had an opportunity

to walk you through the top floor here.

And I got the mat room right next door, which

was like a dream for me.

When I was thinking of owning, I rented space forever.

And then when we bought this building,

and I said, man, just one thing that I want for myself

is I want to have something upstairs that I can train in

in the morning.

So what's cool is it seems like you had a similar thing.

You got the car practice business next door with amazing

people that work over there.

And then right next door to that is the mat factory and stuff.

And it seems like you're more on the mat side.

Looks like you put a ton of hours and a ton of work

into people on that side of things too.

I mean, that's why you and I get along so well, I think,

because I like to intertwine my passions.

And I had a coach that Burl started 2003, 2004.

And we had a couple of offices that

weren't around the area.

So I decided to move an office there and start up a wrestling

club.

Great decision.

I worked with one of my best friends, Chris Coma,

who's the head coach back then.

And we kind of passed the reins on to Josh Shields,

one of our former wrestlers who's

a national champion at Mercyhurst.

And he's done an amazing job.

We've been kind of his right-hand man ever since.

And we have the wrestling club, which we bring in a lot of local kids

to help out as well.

And so it's just been a win-win.

And I get to get done with work on a Tuesday.

And I take my work shoes off.

I put on my wrestling shoes and I couldn't be happier.

Love it.

Love it.

Now, how many state champions and national champions?

And so we covered the section titles.

But how many state champs and national champions have you coached?

We've at Burrow, we just had our 10th national state champion

this year, AJ Carrado, one and over time with a pancake.

Love it.

And yeah, just we've been blessed with this year.

We had we graduating two seniors that

are going to Brown, both of them.

Ivy League kids in Oswald.

And it was a two-time state runner up.

And AJ was a state runner up last year,

state champion this year.

We've been really lucky to have kids like that all the way

through.

It starts with our youth program.

And it instills a passion into the kids

because they see how passionate the parents are and the community is.

And we're going on 15 in a row this year.

And we've won 17 total and 16 since I started.

Crazy.

Yeah, it's been a lot of success.

But one thing was success with us that we've learned.

We don't shoot our goals there.

We always set them for the state championship.

Top four in the state every year is our goal.

So shooting a goal is higher.

We always shoot our goals higher.

And let's stay there.

How do you think that happens to have 15 in a row,

Whip-Eel championship?

How does something like that even happen as it started in the culture?

Where does that start?

Well, it really starts with relationships.

Without the relationships, there's no culture.

And it's the relationships with the community,

with the parents, with the administration,

with the kids, with the coaches.

It's something that we learned at UPJ under our wrestling coach,

Hapakura, was you can make it a family first.

Once you make it a family, all the success will come to you.

So we make it a family thing.

And you know, we have each other's backs

of something bad happens, where they're to help,

something good happens, where they're to pray.

So it's a balance.

And it's basically all about developing those type of relationships

and falling through with them too.

After they leave, we're still close with those kids

as soon become good men graduate college,

go out into the workforce, become good father.

So that's what we're really trying to promote.

The success is just how many national champs have you coached?

National champs probably four or five, since we started.

Josh being one of them.

Cody Laws, National champ, you know,

a lot of those guys I kind of coach was Cody at UPJ.

Yeah, two Penn State UPJ guy.

Okay.

Nico Megaludis was one of the first kids I ever coached.

When he was about eight years old, he's National Champ

for Penn State.

Still comes in the math factory every week.

Love having him in there.

And Jason Norfolk obviously was the big one

that we got to see grow up from eighth grade

all the way up through, you know,

still wrestling today for Olympic spot.

Love it.

That's crazy.

Now, how did you get into Jiu Jitsu from the wrestling thing?

What I love about your place is it's like this hybrid

of wrestling Jiu Jitsu that you don't see all over the place,

but it's probably the most applicable,

you know, that I've seen for actual combat in things.

So, you know, our philosophy is wrestling is, you know,

the king as far as like positionally

and controlling where the fight is, the matches.

But Jiu Jitsu is just an endless supply of knowledge.

It's never stopped learning in Jiu Jitsu.

I've been doing it for 18 years now.

How'd you get into it?

I got into it.

I graduated chiropractic school.

I moved down here.

And I took a job with one of my roommates

in chiropractic school.

It was down here working for a friend,

one of my friends Ralph Patraca.

So my partner, eventually partners Jason Jacobs

and Ralph Patraca, lowered me down here.

So I took a job as an associate doctor.

And then I started coaching with Chris Coma.

He actually went to UPJ.

He was about five years older than me,

but he was one of my uncles.

And he asked me if I wanted to coach with him at Burrow.

I said, yeah, for sure.

So I started coaching with him.

And then he was actually doing Jiu Jitsu on the side.

So him and I in the summers would go do Jiu Jitsu

two, three days a week.

And I'm like, this is crazy.

I've nothing I've ever seen.

And I just fell in love with it right from the beginning.

He kind of phased out of it with family and everything.

And I just kind of took off with it.

And yeah, I've been doing it almost every day since.

18, 19 year journey.

And so any tips that you have on speeding up the progress

of someone, somebody that you can't rush the process.

You got to put in the work.

But is there any tips you would have on how somebody could

progress their game a little bit quicker?

Well, I think that it's just, you got to love it

and not care about that.

You have to basically look at it.

Like this is what I'm going to do for the rest of my life.

And that'll all come.

You can see the black belt and people like yourself

that they love it.

They want to learn.

They're constantly wanting to learn.

It's already happened, as far as I'm concerned.

The problem is most people.

So just trust the process.

Trust the process.

And phone love with it.

That's it.

If you start asking, like, when am I going to get this?

When I'm going to do this, I need to do this.

It's good to get that.

Obviously, as you're a white belt, blue belt, purple belt.

But from that point on, I think it's just,

we just got to buy your time and be around the right people.

And I think that's the biggest thing.

And do what you do a lot too.

I like seeking out other people, other gyms,

other people, other information, getting that different feel.

I mean, that's a big part of the journey as well.

Something I did a lot of.

And I'm really glad that I did, for sure.

Out of, you know, I don't know if there you have these,

you know, I'm sure you're not checking these statistics.

But, you know, out of all, you know,

I know just in my journey, you know, the people

that I started with, if I look back to even just old pictures

and packed gyms, you know, where I was, you know,

there was 40 of us, you know, or graduation,

or something like that.

And I look back and how many of those folks actually ended up

being black belts.

There's a few, and it's cool to see people

that you started with, you know,

and neither one of you knew nothing.

And I watched these people.

They're not black belts and, you know, and all of that stuff.

But how many people would you say out of a thousand

or out of a hundred, you know, that start, you know,

that say, I'm gonna come in and test this out and do this?

How many do you think end up, you know,

being a black belt from their legit black belt?

I mean, statistically, it's about one in 300.

It started.

Okay, is that the number?

Yeah, about one in 300?

One in 300 is you, if you, you know,

I think that's probably pretty accurate.

Okay.

A lot of that is most people get to a certain level

and they'll have adversity.

That's the biggest killer in Jiu Jitsu.

Enjuries, family, you know, different job.

I mean, it's excuses that you can kind of, you know,

see filter in through and you start to see that happening.

And it's all understandable.

I mean, Jitsu black belts aren't for every single person.

Trust me, but the people that stick with it,

it's carries with them for the rest of their life.

And then once they get a black belt,

I mean, you're still always gonna be a white belt.

But what I'll say is like, you're gonna help,

wanna help people forever, you're gonna wanna be involved

in the sport forever at that point,

because it's in your blood.

You know, I've seen a quote said,

you know, all a black belt is a white belt that never quit.

That's it just never gave up.

You know, we're the same thing white belt,

we just never, you know, never quit.

And so those, you think the thing that separates

is just how it's just handling adversity.

And not buying the excuses that pop up,

which you know, a lot of, they say the best excuses

or the best lies are the ones that are wrapped

in a little bit of truth.

You know, you could buy it, you know, almost,

it makes some sense, you know, to buy some of these,

you know, these excuses, but you think the biggest one

is just not buying the mental excuses as this comes up

and continuing to push and getting over those adversities

and obstacles.

Yeah, it's something that, you know,

we teach in wrestling a lot, we call it the excuse bag.

So you're getting excuse, you gotta put it in your excuse bag.

And at the end of the year,

you gotta empty that excuse bag out no matter what.

And if you have a big bunch of excuses coming out

from that year, pretty sure, you say your goals,

it's gonna affect that.

So same thing with you Jiu Jitsu, if your goal's to be a black belt,

you know, you find those excuses,

it's gonna basically make it a lot longer process for you.

But, you know, my friends that are black belts,

some of the closest friends that I have,

I've seen the adversity they've went through,

I've seen, no, I know the adversity I've went through

to get there.

And I just see that perseverance, it's the same thing.

It's like, if I get hurt, I'm gonna work around it.

If I can't make it to the gym, I'm gonna study.

I'm gonna study this.

I'm gonna, you know, nowadays you can study film

like, you know, no other.

So I think that's a big, big bonus nowadays.

Technology.

Technology.

And also getting with the right people

being consistent with growth is also huge.

I'm asked why my coaches that look to that,

you know, when I see my weaknesses,

I'm like, who gave you your black belt?

I was, I got a black belt under Eddie Vincent.

Guy, local guy in Pittsburgh.

And I've been striped by two strives by Bogga,

Rodrigo Ramos, who's my,

to get to instructor now.

I know he's one of the founders of American top team.

He's really helped me a ton.

Got you.

Now 43 years young.

44, but.

44.

Okay.

45 in May.

44 years young, 45 in May.

So that's right around the corner here.

And still out here, rolling and wrestling around

and sprints and all this other cartwheels

and everything else going on out here.

What tips would you have, you know, as people age

to be able to continue to perform at that level

and, and stay in that type of shape?

I really think that, you know, staying in the grind

is the best, you know, once you get yourself there,

just try to stay there.

You know, I have people that inspire me.

I train 60, 60 year old guys that are,

that are inspirational.

I mean, I can't, I can't believe they can do what they do.

And I think it's just, you know, consistency

with your diet, with your, with your, with your exercise.

And the people that you're around, obviously, you know,

is a big part of that.

There's gonna be days you don't feel like doing it,

but when you, you know, you have those guys

that are pushing you, I think that's a big part of it as well.

Any, any recovery stuff for, you know,

how many, you're training every day?

Almost every day.

Yeah.

I trained, you know, six days a week on average.

But, you know, a lot of those days are two, two days too.

And I, I personally enjoy it.

That's what I look for.

It's my type of therapy.

It's my mental therapy.

It's my physical therapy.

But, you know,

The most people would need a lot of physical therapy.

To do six days a week, a 45 years old.

So what's the, what's the, what's the secret?

Don't be holding out on the secret for me.

Is it the chest hair?

Yeah, I definitely got that.

That's coming off pretty soon.

Yeah.

I think that, you know, it's my job.

Basically, I've been blessed.

I made a decision when I was in college.

I really liked the, you know, chiropractic lifestyle.

That was, it would drew me to it.

Kind of drew me away from the medical modicum

more than the chiropractic.

Just the healthy living, you know, the,

everything that went along with it, the diet, the, you know,

the innate that taking care of yourself.

What things diet wise would you, would you suggest?

I mean, I just try to eat healthy multiple times a day.

Water is one of the biggest things that I do.

A lot of water, a lot of hydration.

A lot of water.

I don't take a lot of supplements personally,

but, you know, I do a little bit here and there.

Just, just for my natural immune system health.

But I think just living that lifestyle, you know,

I live a chiropractic lifestyle.

I get adjusted, I get massaged multiple times a week.

You know, I have adjustments in massages.

Yeah, I'm huge.

Anytime I have anything, I pay attention to it.

I mean, I'm on top of it next day.

Luckily, I'm in my office.

So, and I have, you know, other doctors around me.

My wife's a doctor.

She's a chiropractor.

Yeah, okay.

She works on me at home.

My partners work on me.

Associate doctors work on me.

I go to another chiropractor that's a friend of mine,

you know, usually every week or two.

And I have really, really, really good massage therapist

that work with us.

So I have access to that on pretty much on a daily.

So that helps me personally.

Yeah.

I've learned that if I just ignore injuries,

that's not the answer.

That usually will break down somewhere else.

So I've learned that the hard way.

But yeah, I've been really lucky, health wise.

But I think keeping the wheels greased too.

I think wrestling daily, grappling daily,

working out hard, trying to max my heart rate out weekly.

I think that's a big part of it too.

Just keeping it going.

Yeah.

So the, you know, a lot of times in life you'll hear,

you know, I come to a, came to a fork in the road,

you know, and I could have went this way

or could have went that way.

We've talked about it, you know, at the Bible study

and stuff that you do, you know, on Wednesdays

before we train, there's a Bible study there.

And we have a chance to have some of these conversations

and we talk about how, you know, a lot of times

you see kids and men out, we want it for everybody,

you know, you kind of see that fork in the road for them.

Is there any moments of your life you could look back

and think, you know, whether it was an injury

or, you know, personal, you know, anything,

anything you could look back on after coming off of a loss

or a setback or, you know, mentally,

anything that you could remember that you could look at,

man, this was a, I didn't realize it maybe at the time

but this was a fork in the road for me.

Yeah, I'm a, I'm a group that I belong to,

called Reveal Your Path.

It's a bunch of, it's been about five years now

but the biggest thing that we go off

of is success through failure.

You succeed through failure.

You know, when you win, do you really get better?

Maybe a little bit, but failures

with the big breeding ground for success.

And, you know, I can't point out many times in my life

where I've failed and looking back on how much it's helped me.

Not just failing, messing up as a kid, learning hard lessons,

but you have to act upon, you have to have action items,

you have to, you know, make a conscious decision

to make it better.

So, you know, for me, my college athletic career,

I mean, just for an example, I was recruited,

I wasn't supposed to start going into my,

sophomore year, the coach, our wrestling coach,

had recruited a very highly recruited kid,

scholarship kid.

I remember like, I had to let him know

that I'm going to make this decision,

that I'm going to step up.

So, I remember going up to his office,

I had a meeting and I looked him in the eye,

I said, I'm going to be your boy, I'm going to make this

is going to happen.

Like, I feel bad that you just wasted that scholarship.

That scholarship.

He's like, I'm rooting for you, good luck.

And I just remember going back every day,

I remember him saying that, that wrote it down,

and I just kept remembering it, and I just worked hard.

All summer came back, got the starting spot.

Worked my butt off that year, I thought, you know,

I thought I did, I got to the national tournament,

I was seated fourth, and I got to the quarter finals,

and I lost, and it just crushed me, and got to the blood round,

where you're an all-american, or you're not,

lost that match too.

So, I was devastated, and I thought I did everything right.

I thought I did, I ate right, I didn't drink,

I didn't do anything, I was working out,

I was doing extra workouts.

But it just really went to the core, I said,

I did everything right for the first time in my life,

I gave it everything I had, and it didn't work out.

And then I remember going back and like,

nothing's guaranteed, nothing's guaranteed.

So, the next year I came back, I'm like,

I'm gonna be a national champion, I'm not gonna be an all-american,

I'm gonna be a national champion, I'm gonna give it everything I have,

and then some, and then luckily I was around teammates that were,

you know, pushing me, and we had a family thing,

and I got really lucky with the teammates that I had,

the influences that I had, so when it came back the next year,

I took second, I lost in a really tight match, and over time,

but I was more satisfied, happy with myself,

from that growth that I had that I'm like,

hey, you know, there are levels to this, there's levels to adversity,

there's levels to hard work, there's levels to everything,

so I learned that lesson, and that really helped me,

with everything from life on that point on,

I feel like as a 21-year-old kid from there on,

I kinda got life a little bit better from that, going through that failure,

so that's my success through failure, kind of moment,

and I can name that for a lot of my teammates and kids I've coached,

and I've seen it even in business as well.

Yeah, there's that fork in the road, for sure.

Who would you say would be the three most influential people on your life,

and why it's probably hard to condense it down to three,

because you have so many great relationships with people,

but anybody stand out and kinda why?

I mean, for many of my parents obviously, they never pushed me into anything,

they just kinda let me find my way, which I, looking back on it,

I was very thankful for that, I feel like I got pushed with it.

I don't think I would have been successful as I was,

but it also taught me how to be a coach,

not push kids, use the kids that are passionate and use that,

but the kids that aren't, you gotta guide them differently,

so I learned that as well.

The biggest influence, coaching wise and distant life in general,

besides that was my wrestling coach in college,

obviously I had many coaches in my high school coach was awesome,

but my college wrestling coach really taught me how to be a man,

had a lot of tough love on us, he used to call it,

but he wasn't afraid to call us out on stuff either, or BS,

and I wasn't used to that, I liked that,

and he also taught me everyone's different,

he pushed buttons differently, like this guy may need a slap in the butt,

this guy might need a little praise, a little bit of mental coaching,

this guy might need something else, so I learned that from him.

Through watching?

Watching, yeah.

Through watching?

I saw him do that with all of us.

Like why is he yelling at him, but not him, and he does this with me,

and then after I started coaching myself, I'm like,

oh, I talked to him about it, have pretty good relationship still.

So he's like, yeah, you have to treat every single person like a different seed

and get the water differently.

So I learned that, and I think that really helped me with deciding

who was going to be in my circle, but people I wanted to be around

and in my growth as well, so I think that was a big lesson.

So those two particular steps stand out, obviously a lot of my teammates,

I can go back to my roommate, made me like I told you before,

he made me, after wrestling it over, we'd go out,

but he'd make sure that I was up at 8 a.m. to go to church every morning,

that was our deal, and he had a huge influence on me living with him.

Huge.

Yeah, what's his name?

Troy Barbush.

Troy's a four-time all-american national champion, state champion in high school.

He's done amazing things outside of wrestling.

Where's he at now?

Arizona.

He was a huge influence on me.

He kept me in a straight line without that when I made it.

You talk about making an impact.

I mean, you look at the people that I've just, in the small amount of time,

I've been around you to watch the impact that you've had on people's spiritual journey

in that same coaching style that you just talked about of not forcing anybody into it,

not judging anybody, but the ones that want it,

trying to really, really make it an impact on those people.

People really admire you and look up to you because of how good you are at the game,

but then how you treat folks and treat people.

And really, you look at that seed being planet from this your roommate

on how many other people's lives that are now impacted that otherwise would have never been touched.

Yeah.

If it wasn't for that, that's huge, man.

That's huge.

Talk to me about the grind.

What people don't see when they see how good that you are on the mats.

What are people not see behind the scenes?

You got the grind, the shirt on.

You're main.

What we were talking today about it, how good that you are.

What sticks out that maybe people don't see?

The biggest thing for me has been balancing my spirituality, my family life,

my work life, and my coaching, and my wrestling, and my competing.

And it's this daily thing that you constantly have to be,

we're just looking at your goals or your early goals.

It's something I make action items daily.

I have to do this done, this done, this done.

But I always make it important with what my core values are.

I want to be a family man.

I want to be help other people.

I also want to be successful in my business.

I want to be successful with my family, with my friends.

So I think with that it's like setting my core values,

knowing where they are, what the importance is with them,

and putting that kind of energy into each core value.

I learned that a long time ago, and it's really helped me kind of like daily,

doing the action items and writing goals down, is really.

Daily, daily action items.

Like those things down.

Yeah, daily action items.

Just writing them on a piece of paper, writing them in your phone.

Do you fail all the time?

Yeah, you miss stuff all the time, but it keeps you accountable.

And you'd be surprised how much it can help you just doing those little things like that, obviously.

My most successful friends do that.

So I think that's a big, big secret.

Right, down those daily action items.

What does the word sacrifice mean to you?

Sacrifice means doing what's not easy.

The easy thing is always right there.

It's doing what's not the hard thing.

So sacrifice is going to be, help you become successful a lot quicker, obviously.

I've learned that through wrestling first,

but it's carried over into every aspect of my life.

So it depends on what's important to you.

Well, look at an athlete.

Are they a square?

Or are they a triangle?

Or are they a straight line?

I didn't make this up.

Actually, boxing coach.

Without getting into it, I think I would not want to be the square.

Yeah, I don't know if that's the good one or not.

Let's break that down.

So there's a boxing coach.

His name is Bruce.

I think it's bashing, bashing tenor, something like that.

Square triangle.

Yeah, he taught it.

Straight line.

Square has four things that are important to him.

Going out, family, work, and whatever else.

Right?

So that person's going to be fairly successful.

As a coach, I don't want to waste a whole lot of energy on that type of person, though,

because I know that their potential is going to be hard to reach.

Because they're trying to do so many different things.

And they're really not putting that effort into what to their craft.

So we see an athlete that's just trying to go and let someone that we like

because they're the family life, they have a social life, and they have their sport or whatever.

So I like those athletes because I know that we can kind of like direct them.

And they may reach some pretty good goals, and they'll be pretty successful.

But then we get the Jason Knopf and the Nico Megalooises, the Dalton Rost,

the Cody Laws that are straight line.

Obsessed.

They're obsessed.

They have their family or home life, and they have the gym.

And that's it.

That's all they just do this.

And that's where the true, you know, special world champions are bred.

That's my job to recognize that and help feed that.

You got to be obsessed.

You got to be obsessed.

It's a word that you hear.

You got to keep it under control.

Yeah.

You know, because I think people can get hurt that way.

But I don't know if I've seen a lot of people in the Olympics or master anything

that wasn't, you know, described as obsessed.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Like I would describe those folks.

I would describe you as obsessed.

And you're a dad and you're a husband.

And you got a business and you're a mentor and you got the Bruno camp and all of that stuff.

But I would...

I would say that you're close to obsessed with.

I think I was at one point, you know,

with goals and putting everything into it.

I think I've learned that.

I kind of kept that kind of a,

a townie too long.

But now I'm kind of, you know, like he listened,

I can do this, this and this.

I can, you know, I'm gonna point my life where I can,

you know, enjoy things.

I'm really glad I did that because it taught me a lot.

I'm gonna live right.

How to be a good man, good person, good husband.

But, you know, I can obviously relax a little bit now,

but in, sit back.

That's why I really enjoy the coaching aspect of it now

because I can see the potential.

I can see a little bit of what I was going through

in these guys and I can see where they can go with it.

That's what gets me excited.

That's where my real true passion is.

That's why I love wrestling, I love MMA, I love Getsu

because you can see those guys like yourself.

Like I can see the potential in you

and just getting you there.

So, appreciate it, man.

Now, now the, how could,

how could people that are listening now follow you

on social media or people that would kind of want to

see where you're at?

So, we got the Matt factory and that's in Leachburg.

Lower Burl.

Lower Burl.

Yeah.

I think it comes up maybe Leachburg in the navigation.

Maybe not.

It might.

But their Instagram.

Yeah, just Instagram.

That Instagram, the Matt factory,

that's my personal Instagram.

The Matt factory.

Matt factory wrestling club on Instagram.

And, you know, that's about it.

Facebook a little bit.

I do, I have a Matt factory page on there

and I have a personal.

Is it under Matt factory?

Matt factory.

The Matt factory.

Matt factory.

On Facebook.

Yup.

Any spaces?

Nope, just the Matt factory.

Straight up, straight line.

Yup.

Bam.

Yup.

Yup.

Yeah, so, I mean we have a small gym,

but, you know, I love it because,

you know, I grew up in a small gym

and our wrestling coaches tell us

not this room big enough for you

or you big enough for the room.

I love that.

I've been tempted to go out

and build a big gym and do everything to it all big up

but I'm really glad I haven't.

I like those little small spaces.

Feels good.

Feels good to get in there.

Feels right.

Yeah.

I love it.

They say a church alive is worth the drive.

That's right.

And, I've been making that drive

and, you know, people come from all over the place,

you know, just to go to the Matt factory

because of the culture that you've built

in the amount of success that you've had

helping people on their journey through the Matt factory.

It's almost become a necessary stop

for people if they really want to go to the next level, man.

And, you could feel your spirit in that place.

You could feel the culture through you

of what you've built that family atmosphere

and the way people treat each other

and then the intensity, you know, that's going on.

You could feel your passion.

The intensity is just different.

I mean, it wouldn't, when you get in that room

and you're training people, man,

it's like you could tell that people are ready

to get better because you're challenging them,

you're pushing them, the intensity level is there.

And I know I appreciate that.

Well, I mean, personally...

I think like attracts like, that's why, you know,

I got guys like Dom and Dempsey,

and other, you know, great coaches around us

because, you know, that intensity attracts

the same type of intensity.

So, you know, we're not for everyone, obviously,

but, you know, the guys that do,

the girls and the guys that do come to us,

we try to put everything we can into them

and see where they can go with it.

No doubt.

I appreciate you joining us here today

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