Special Guest, Tanner Hall

Count money, man.

Money that gritches.

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Welcome back to another episode of the grind cast Get Ready.

It's a new day.

And I'm excited to introduce you to a special guest today.

We got Tanner Hall, current BJJ Black belt representing Stout over here in Pittsburgh, man.

So looking forward to letting the audience get to know you and add in value to some people

together, man.

Appreciate you having me on.

Appreciate your time.

So let's start out maybe give us a little background on you.

I know right now you got a six month old son.

Congratulations.

How long have you been married?

Just a year.

Come on a year, man.

Okay.

Yeah.

Nice, man.

Yeah, happening all over.

That's the way to do it.

That's the way to do it.

I got, you know, we believe when we trace it back, you know, our first child, Sienna, I

had a girl first.

And so Sienna Capri area.

And that was because we think somewhere between Sienna and Capri and Italy is where we got

right to work, you know, too.

Yeah, that's been all right.

But that's awesome, man.

Congratulations to you.

But you know, starting all the way back, you know, give us a little bit of like who you

are on your journey.

Yeah.

Brother, I promise I'm not going to hijack this podcast.

But we can't say anything about me before we say congratulations to what I would probably

think is top five accomplishments in your life.

BJJ Black Belt, man.

Thank you, man.

Appreciate you.

Appreciate you.

Yes, sir.

It's, it's, you know, what that takes.

Incredible accomplishment.

I mean, it's 14 years.

14 plus.

Yeah.

That's, and they get it from Isaac, you know, the man and, you know, he ain't just handing

them out.

You know, so that's meaningful.

That's PhD.

That's post grad.

That's your residency at your fellowship, man.

Yeah, man.

Yeah.

A lot of everything else you have going on too, and in a business being a father, being a

husband, man.

No doubt.

Yeah.

Even kill, you know, the emotions, you know, for me were like, man, I obviously honored,

you know, but just as even kill, feeling like, you know, not much changes.

You know, other than a little bit more pressure.

Yeah.

I got to get to work.

Yeah.

You know, me.

Yeah.

I think, I think we all feel that little imposter syndrome, like when I got my black belt,

I was like, oh, man, I need to learn more.

Like everybody's going to come to me looking for answers, and I may not have all of that.

Yeah.

I better get study, and I better get more mad time in.

But yeah, congratulations.

Thanks, man.

Really cool.

Appreciate you.

But, yeah, so I grew up in oil city, Pennsylvania, just up route eight here.

Couple stoplights in the middle of the woods.

Probably five, six thousand people in that town.

So it was good to grow up in a small town, and then get out of there.

There's nothing good happening in oil city anyway.

But, yeah, I went to college over in the College of Worcester in Ohio.

Yeah.

Play baseball over there.

From hip to Worcester?

Nice.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, I'm from Ohio.

Oh, yeah, youngstown.

You pass Worcester, I think, on the way to Columbus.

Oh, yeah, right?

Yep.

Yeah, you do.

So I played baseball over there.

All right.

Would you play?

I was a pitcher.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I won the game to take us to the national chave chip in 2009.

And then, yeah, sick, man.

And then we dropped two to St. Thomas.

Okay.

We're St. Thomas.

They're out of Wisconsin, I believe.

Okay.

Yep.

Great experience there.

Great teammates.

I graduated economics degree.

And then, gone on board with a company called Lincoln Electric Selling Welding Products

and Automation and stuff.

And they sent me out to Connecticut.

And a few years after being in Connecticut, that's when I started Jiu-Jitsu.

Okay.

You started in Connecticut?

Yeah.

All right.

Yeah.

How'd you get introduced?

I was doing CrossFit at the time.

And I was like 282 pounds.

I was the last number I looked at on the scale.

Okay.

So I joined this CrossFit gym.

Like, yoked up 282 or like, you were fat 282?

Uh, mixture.

I mean, I got a picture.

I got to go for it after I'm sure you might have to put it up.

Yeah.

Josh, can we put it up if we get it?

All right.

I'll give that a go.

No problem.

Both.

Both.

I mean, I had some muscle, but I was definitely fat.

All right.

And so the gym at the CrossFit Box was at the right.

The door on the right was CrossFit.

I was CrossFit Thin Blue Line.

And then the door on the left was Boshido Jiu-Jitsu, Manchester, Connecticut under Rob

Meigau.

So my dad and my brother, those two guys are my heroes.

We always watched UFC together.

So I had an interest, but I got a CrossFit and kind of look in the window and see these

guys rolling around, you know, Rob will come over.

Hey, man, you got to try it out.

I got to try it out.

Okay, maybe I don't know.

One day he had Matt Wheeler.

Matt Wheeler's four foot nothing, 120 pounds soaking wet.

He's a purple belt at the time.

He also was CrossFit trainer.

So he was coaching class.

He was like, hey, Tanner, come over.

Let's roll around a little bit.

So I'm looking at four foot nothing, 120 pound Matt Wheeler.

And I'm in my, you know, 280 body.

Yeah.

So I'm like, okay, here's my shot.

Yeah.

And I look at him.

I go, dude, yes.

Of course, I'll come over.

But I'm going to crush you, man.

Look, like I'm almost three times as big as you.

He's like, yeah, I just wanted to test my skills, like playing real koi.

So you know, slap bump.

In a five minute roll, he tapped me out 12 times.

After 45 seconds, I was completely exhausted.

And like it just completely flipped my world.

What the hell was that?

What the hell was that?

This little kid?

Yeah.

This little dude, 120 pounds.

What if he was my size?

What if he was my size in a black belt?

Man, I got to start learning this stuff.

So I, that, that day right after we got to the end of the day.

That's awesome.

Sign up for GJ2.

Stop being a crossfit.

That's awesome.

Never look back, man.

I had a, you know, this, you know what's a little dude when I'm a little dude calling somebody

else a little dude.

I had a little dude.

That's how I got started in GJ2.

You know, I was a guy that's still in our business.

He's been, I think, 25 plus years in the business.

And he was a purple belt at the time I believe when I met him.

And he was telling me about, you know, GJ2.

And explaining it to me and he was smaller, you know what I mean.

I mean, we're playing around a little bit and I'm like, man, this is, I got to check

it.

I was like, man, you love it.

You got the mindset, you know, I mean for it.

I just kept driving up and down.

I was driving up and down 19 all the time.

And I kept seeing this, you know, Brazilian GJ2, you know what I mean?

I kept passing it, you know what I mean?

So it just kept smacking me in the face.

And finally, like, you know what?

Let's get it done.

I'm going to have to get in shape anyway.

You know, I'm going to have to do cardio, you know, and all that.

I ain't going to let myself go.

I'm going to have to, I'm not going to just put the time into something like that.

So, you know, the hardest belt to get is the white belt.

You know, the main walking in the door, you know, intimidated.

You know, I mean, going through.

I could imagine how people feel because I was decently confident.

I was an athlete, played college football, lifted weights, you know, been in, you know,

scuffles, you know, growing up, you know, in youngstowns.

I wasn't, you know, intimidated all the time.

But just I remember walking in the door of like, all right, you got to pep talk yourself

up there.

You know what I'm saying?

I mean, this is a real test, right?

And I got, you know, just smashed the same way.

And I'm like, man, this don't make no sense.

You know, this is, this is crazy.

You know, how could somebody dominate you like this?

Especially when you do, you are as confident as you are.

And then it's time to face the music.

You walk in.

And then, you know, you get drugged through the mud.

That was the first time I was humbled.

The second time I rolled with Jesse Swanson is her name.

She's a black belt now.

She's a high level competitor.

And 30 seconds into our role, she earned by me.

A girl.

A girl.

Yeah, I'm like, wait, wait, wait.

Everything that I knew to be true just completely baffled me because it wasn't true anymore.

I'm not supposed to get beat up by girls.

Right.

And then the next, you know, four and a half minutes of the role, I'm trying to fight

out of a triangle the entire time.

It was humbling.

It was a real blow to my ego, like a real blow to my ego.

But also, it kind of cemented my belief in Jiu-Jitsu for sure, because it works.

You know, it doesn't matter how big you are, how small you are, male, female, you know,

athletic or not.

Like, the mats don't lie.

Yeah.

You know?

Yeah.

And so now you mention your dad and your brother.

Are you younger brother?

To him, yeah.

So there's four of us.

Okay.

My brother Brandon, he's four years older, and he got two younger sisters.

He's my age.

Yeah.

42, maybe 41, 42.

41, yep.

Okay.

And so your brother, older brother, you said you got two younger sisters.

Yep.

Okay.

So you're kind of in the middle.

For middle.

Oh, for middle.

But the youngest brother.

Oh yeah.

Okay.

How about the girls?

They got two older brothers.

Yeah.

Yeah.

As a dad, that's cool.

For sure.

I have my daughter first.

You know, so I'm like, I gotta stay and shape myself a little bit longer, you know what I mean.

And so your dad, where's your family at?

No.

So brother and his family, they're out in Philly.

Okay.

Just north of Philly.

My dad and mom, they're up in Erie now.

Okay.

So I grew up in oil city.

Yep.

But dad.

Oh nice.

I know about Erie.

Fun fact.

It's cold.

Uh, it's a different level of snow.

That's a different level of snow right there up on 90.

So he played basketball and football at Mercyhurst.

And for one season, he played with Buster Douglas.

All right, so after Buster knocked out Mike,

he called up my dad and they went and like,

partied in Columbus and I let him know and all that.

Yeah, yeah.

So I got I got a Buster Douglas autographed picture of him holding all three belts and everything.

That's crazy.

Yeah.

And I didn't know to recently in the last year,

somebody told me that Buster Douglas had went to Mercyhurst for a minute.

Oh, never knew.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I never knew.

He played basketball too.

That's crazy.

I remember the picture of my dad show him saying, there's Buster.

That's amazing.

So your dad went to Mercyhurst.

Yeah, that's that's amazing.

Okay, athletic family.

I played football, basketball, and then lifted through high school.

Okay, my brother played D1 ball out at Lafayette.

Yeah, he went there, he went there as a quarterback.

Football.

Then, yeah, but then got like huge in the weight room.

Yep.

And they put him at tight end.

That's sweet.

So he's tight end the rest of the year.

Yeah, that happens a lot.

The quarterback's get transitioned a decent amount to tight end sometimes.

Yeah, that's awesome.

Yeah, yeah.

So then so the journey, you know, you get introduced in Connecticut.

And then how long did that go?

How'd you get back to Pittsburgh?

Yeah, man.

So, Jiu-Jitsu found me at the perfect time of my life.

I was just going through a divorce kind of feeling a little purposeless.

Like I needed something to connect to, to hold on to.

Crossfit was cool, but it wasn't really cutting it.

Found Jiu-Jitsu, and I was like, this is it.

This is it.

This feels my cup.

I'm trying to train as many times as I can for per week, like eight, ten times per week.

After I got divorced, I moved to Pittsburgh.

So my cousin was here.

He's like, let's get you closer to family.

You know, cause I'll turn out there on the island.

So move back here.

And then I remember when I moved back, I went to a bunch of different gyms in the area.

And Mike Wilkins, the general at our gym.

I remember sitting, he's sitting on a bench.

I was like, yeah, I'm going to go, I think I went to like an open mat.

And I was like, I'm going to go check out some other gyms.

He's like, yeah, man, go.

Go check out the other gyms, for sure.

Get all the information you need.

We're not going anywhere.

I think that's kind of a little unique to Pittsburgh that we do all this cross training.

And that we're friendly with the other gyms.

Old school.

That's really old school is frowned upon.

Yeah, right?

Old school.

Where did they go?

Yeah, Crayonch.

Old school, they don't like that.

No, not at all.

It's evolved.

Yeah.

It's evolved, man.

And there's such a good community here in Pittsburgh where most not all, are like that,

but most are like, yeah, they're all open.

For sure.

I think it's cool.

Yeah.

So when I heard that, I was like, OK, I'm going to keep this place in the back of my mind.

So again, I went to three or four in the area, ended up at Stout.

And it has just been completely life changing.

Like, I became a man, you know, I got confident, I got humbled.

There's always somebody who's better than you in those rooms.

All the time.

So you're not in that place.

That's what you want.

Yeah.

That's how I got to the map back there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

A bunch of dogs out there.

I want to have a bunch of people that are better than me to grow me.

Yeah.

The blended individuals.

Yeah.

Trying to get each other better.

No doubt.

And so what would you say were some of the big...

biggest challenges that you faced in adversities

and how have you dealt with some of those things

you mentioned at divorce?

Maybe on and off the map.

What are some of the challenges

and how have you been able to overcome some of them?

Yeah, for sure.

I mean, I was fat when I started.

So it's a 282.

I'd overcome a big belly.

You know what I mean?

So, but it was easy because I had something

that I wanted to get really good at.

And in order to get really good at that,

I knew I had to lose a big belly.

I knew I had to put the time in.

I knew I had to figure out my diet.

So that was a physical adversity.

But man, sports imitates life.

Everything that you learn on the mat,

you can apply to your life.

Patients being calm in a storm, working at something,

doing something hard and showing up day in and day out

when you don't want to train.

When you don't want to go make that next sales call,

when you don't want to go take that next meeting.

But actually, showing up, doing what you say you're going to do.

I get really immense.

I mean, I called it being a man, but just being a good person.

No doubt.

Yeah, that's all about.

For sure.

What do you think?

Looking now, how long you been training?

12 years.

Anything you look back and say in my first year,

my second year, I wish I would have known

this.

I would have applied this earlier.

Wish I would have known that at that point.

Yeah.

So standing in these shoes as a black belt

and trying to put myself back in my white or blue belt shoes,

I'd say, and again, sports imitates life, like fundamentals.

You're going to use fundamentals throughout your entire training

career.

And the same thing, like life work.

And life, yeah.

No doubt.

And the fundamentals aren't fun.

So I always tell people it's like, man, the fundamentals ain't fun.

Flying armbard, that stuff, you know, that could be cool to.

Alley, you know what I'm saying?

But the dribbling, you know, the repetition of getting your hips

turned around and swinging a back, you know, the main or a golf club,

or whatever it is, the fundamentals.

Absolutely.

Grinding it out on the fundamentals isn't as much fun.

But it's always the thing that that'll take you to the next level.

And as you grow and get, you know, higher belt ranks and more experience,

you can kind of pull away from going to fundamentals classes.

So if you haven't been there for a while and you go back, you're going to pick

something up.

Even if it's that little, my new detail that could definitely change how

you are in that position or, you know, turning a defensive position into an

offense position.

Like, you might pick something up that will change your game at a fundamentals class.

So like revisiting the fundamentals is key as well.

Staying on the fundamentals.

Yeah.

Yeah, for sure.

What you can do your barren bullows and your flying armbars and triangles and all that.

But I mean, that's only going to take you so far.

Hardest belt to achieve.

You know, we talked a little bit about it, but do you agree with that?

I do say the hardest belt.

I totally agree.

White belt that it is white belt.

A hard one for me was purple belt.

So I came to Pittsburgh as a four-strike blue belt and then stayed a four-strike blue

belt for four years.

You know, I had to prove my word here.

Warn much like Isaac doesn't just give out.

Yeah, give out belts.

Yeah.

So, you know, you got to prove you worth.

And, you know, it's tough.

Two and a half years in sitting here going, well, I can beat some purple belts and, you know,

wins at my time and then going to belt promotion after belt promotion and not hearing your

name calling, you know, again, it's like when you're looking for a promotion in a real

world and you don't get it.

Right.

How do you do it?

How do you respond?

You know, quit.

Yeah, you quit.

You go look for another job or do you do it?

Find a easy route.

Yeah.

Find easier, Jim.

Yeah.

Go straight to Brown.

There's plenty on it, baby.

You probably could have went straight to Brown.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's plenty of gyms that'll go out and give you a belt for sure.

Yeah.

You probably have to pay for it too, like monetarily.

Right.

Here's a red flag.

Yes, sir.

But yeah, I mean, so how do you show up?

Will you just do that?

Just show up.

Just keep walking through the door.

Right?

If you just keep walking through that door for 10 years, good things will happen.

Oh, great things will happen.

Right.

I mean, I'm looking to, uh, you got to love the process.

I can't chase a reward.

You have.

Chase a belt.

Right.

What is that even anyway?

No, right?

It's not that.

We all know, you know, purple belts catching black belts and, you know, purple belts that

are just as good and, you know, different edges like the belt don't even really, that

can't be it.

That can't be what you're gunna for, the trophy.

Yeah.

It'll all come.

And then, and then once you make it the black belt, start off.

Start white belt.

Yeah.

Now you learn to use one of the other side.

Yeah.

Whole new level.

It is.

And there's, there's such, um, a disparity between like the lowest level black belt and then

Gordon Ryan.

Yeah.

You know, there's levels.

There could be a whole new belt.

Oh, man, right.

It could be a whole new belt.

For sure.

Yeah.

Yeah, you can, I could, there's definitely a case to get your white belt right after you

get your black belt.

Yes.

Or fire right there.

Yeah.

And so, you know, what do you think for somebody to keep going, you know, in the white belt

face, you know, what tips would you give them?

Like I remember me, I'm like, you know, younger, you know, in my 20s, not younger, but late

20s, ego.

And I'm like, talking myself into like, I know I'm gonna go get smashed here today, you

know, face on the mat, show good, nice, good shoulder pressure.

I was in the gui a lot.

Now I don't really do a son of the gui, but I was in the gui in time.

And in the gui in the gui.

You know, I had a bunch of baggy guis and my, you know, one of my friends, I tried to get

him in a jujitsu.

He's six, five.

And he's like, you know, we always talk back to the first time that I got him to come

to a class.

He's like, you know, the guis didn't fit me.

I came out of the bathroom.

You know, everybody's laughing at me.

They were like, I was the opposite.

You know, fresh guis were so, they were all back.

I drove myself up, you know what I mean?

And then make the short, short stubby guis.

And, you know, I look back and I'm like, man, I got frickin' gui burn, mat burn, you know,

all on my face.

And I'm getting beat up, you know, by people and, you know, humble, you know, the main

a lot.

And, you know, how do you keep showing up?

How do you keep going through that process?

Yeah, man, you gotta just, you gotta make a commitment to yourself and you gotta do

what you say you're gonna do.

And have that conversation with yourself.

That's the most important person in the equation is you, right?

So maybe you can only make it to the gym twice a week or three times a week.

But make it to the gym twice a week or three times a week.

Do what you say you're gonna do.

I mean, I'm gonna go back and forth with Jiu-Jitsu and life because it's all the same

stuff.

It's like falling in love for the first time or falling in love again, right?

You're gonna go through your honeymoon phase and, you know, your shimmer is gonna dull

out a little bit.

So how do you react in those situations?

I was talking about this this morning.

Yeah.

Keep going there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, look, do what you say you're gonna do.

You know, you go through a honeymoon stage and then you're like, you can get into a phase

where it's not honeymoon stage.

Exactly.

What are you doing that moment?

Well, you can look around the room and go, well, that guy did it.

So can I, that guy did it.

So can I, that guy was doing it.

So can I?

Yes.

You know?

Yes.

Come on.

This is the same stuff.

I was just going over this.

When I sent you to picture, this is exactly what I was talking about.

Yeah.

Finding somebody else out there.

Absolutely.

And reminding yourself that if they could do a so can I.

Absolutely.

That's it.

That's it.

Nobody Elon Musk, Donald Trump, Simon Areas, nobody's special.

And everybody can do what you do.

It's just a choice and a commitment and a promise to yourself that you're going to

set goals and you're going to achieve those goals.

Now things that will help you along the way, the community, the Gets communities amazing,

right?

So you're going to go to a place where all your favorite people are.

That helps.

That's the goal.

I want to make it at least to Blue Belt, right?

Or if it's like really, really dying down for you to show up one more time.

One more time.

One more time.

You could do anything once.

Just keep on doing one thing.

I found the growth point for me was like three.

Three a week.

I felt like I was growing.

Less than three a week, I felt like I watched myself not grow as much in that face.

And I watched other people grow.

So I created that face like a rule for myself that I'm not going to go a week without at

least training three times no matter what it takes.

If I'm traveling, I've got to find a gym, whatever.

I've got to find a way.

That's not an investment.

The minimum is the three.

Visiting other gyms.

That's fun.

That's not the fun.

But yeah, I could agree with that for sure.

Three is where you're going to find growth.

But if it's not three, do whatever, commit to something.

Yep.

And like, if you can commit to going in and, you know, getting again, drug through the mud,

really getting crushed.

And you can come back and do that week after week, month after month, year after year,

that's going to translate off them at as well.

That's life.

100%.

You're going to get your ass kicked.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Where you're going to get your ass kicked.

Season.

Yeah.

For season.

I've had a few of those.

Yeah.

You know, I think I just got out of, you know, I'm kind of was in one of those, you know,

to mean, but we're comfortable being uncomfortable.

You have to.

We ain't breaking.

We're going to get better.

We're going to control, we can control.

We're going to keep, we're going to keep showing up.

You know what I mean?

And just trusting in the, trusting in the process and keep, keep, keep, keep, keep, keep,

step at a time, right?

Sometimes you, you get jacked up, right?

And it's like, all right, it's not, it's not one big.

It's not one big sweep that gets me out of this.

It's a bump.

I make my position a little bit better.

And then a bump, then my position's a little bit better.

Sure.

You know, it might be three, four steps that you got to rewind to get to the position that

you want to be and kind of grind it out.

How do you eat an elephant?

One bite at a time.

Thank you.

Just told my daughter, my kids at the other day on the way to school.

I don't like elephants.

Yeah.

They were like, first time I ever heard it.

You know, like, both of them.

I got your attention.

Yeah.

One bite at a time.

So, so the, the, the videos, man, you know, I've, you've been killing it on the social

shooting videos.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I love it, man.

You're fun to do.

So what, you know, what got you into doing that, you know, some of these things have gone

viral, you know, kind of tell us about that.

I feel like that's a newer thing for you.

It is.

I mean, six months ago, I had 2000 followers.

Now, I think I just crossed over like 33,000.

That's crazy.

Um, I appreciate that.

It's not that crazy because I just, I've committed.

I'm going to post one video a day.

You know how easy that is?

Mm-hmm.

I go and I record a month's worth.

Gotta be cool, though.

In one day.

Content is cool.

In a delivery of it, the words.

It's so cool.

You know, the way you got the words coming up.

Yeah.

Look sweet.

And like, you know, it, it's cool when you see that you're making an impact and you get

it like a little, you know, your core following and they're always commenting and like, you

have these little interactions with people in Australia that you've never met.

But you know, hey, go and try that.

I'm a plot of that I showed.

Let me know how it goes.

They'll go, oh, God, I just hit this.

Like that's, that's, that's the cool part.

Yeah.

You know, when you're actually, yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

When you're helping other people, I mean, that again, jujitsu life, that's what it's all

about.

Helping other people.

But I was, I was rolling with, with a white belt, a mirror.

Who moved down to Miami?

Come on, a mirror.

You got to get back here.

I got an a mirror.

Four to two.

Oh, nice.

He's a leader too.

And I was telling him like, look, man, you know, you got to be a good example for other people

because in your name it says a mirror.

Oh, man.

You are a mirror, right?

The reflection that you see, you know, in the mirror, it's all you versus you, but then

other people are also looking at you.

That's so simple and so profound at the same time.

I love that stuff.

I love that.

That's awesome.

I'm here.

I'm going to have to tell Miami or that.

But, um, but yeah, I was rolling with him.

Um, then, you know, we're sort of following each other on Instagram and he's got like 55,000

followers.

So at the end of a roll, I was like, man, what a following.

He's like, oh, yeah, yeah, man.

You know, I just started and had a few videos go viral and just kind of post consistently.

I was like, cool.

Why do this real estate thing?

And I'd, I'd love to do videos for jiu jitsu.

He's like, he's like, I think we could really help somebody else or somebody go big in

the jiu jitsu space on social media.

And, you know, he sat down with me.

He's a 25, 26 year old kid, like super professional sat down, had meetings, built out a plan

that's how many times we're going to post.

This is what we're going to post here are the hooks that you should use.

Um, and just kind of kind of following his lead with that, you know, buying into his

strategy.

And it's just, you know, that's great, man.

That's huge.

It's, it's one thing when you got, you know, something or someone that can film you.

Mm-hmm.

But it sounds like to me that the guy was giving you a little bit of direction.

Oh, for sure.

Like a producer for a producer.

You know what I mean?

Like, like, Drey.

You know what I mean?

Like, yeah.

Man, that's a difference when you got, when you're a producer, versus just, all right, I

can do, you do your thing.

and I'm gonna just film that versus I'm gonna tell you what to do.

Yeah.

I'm gonna put this movie on, you know what I mean?

You could be the star to show,

but I'm gonna put this movie on it.

Here's what you do.

This is how we're gonna put this together.

It's the best of both worlds,

because he's a subject matter expert for social media

and how to run your social media and your content

and your delivering all that.

And I'm the subject matter expert in Jujitsu.

So like, you bring us together,

great things are ultimately gonna happen.

And you still doing a real estate stuff?

Oh yeah.

I mean, that was the first time I met you.

Yeah.

Right?

Yeah.

At one of my youth programs, fun raising functions.

Yeah.

When my broker, Jesse, he won that role,

yes.

Yeah.

Yes.

Jesse Wigg, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's an unbelievable event, man.

I commend you.

It's incredible to get to have such an impact,

seal city impact.

Yeah.

Yeah.

To have such an impact.

They're yesterday.

It's amazing.

I was there yesterday.

I don't know if you guys were talking about

about the best way of getting your kids.

I don't believe we weren't having a leader like you

to show them the way and to show them possibilities.

I mean, you grew up in Youngstown, right?

Yeah.

And, you know, you came up from Youngstown.

Yep.

And just had this hockey stick growth through hard work,

through keeping promises to yourself,

through being a true leader and helping other people,

and to show those kids those core values,

room with all of your other friends. I think it's so cool at the end of the event. You're like,

all right, we're just doing donations, pop them up on a screen. Let's go. And you, there was

an incredible amount of donations made that night. But I just hats off to you for

creating that, for helping out the youth. Take 16. You know what I mean? So, you know, I'm not even

you know, the, to me, the real leader is the person on site, you know, doing it. The, you know,

her name is Tyra. Tyra Grant. And men, I walked in at the time. I walked in yesterday. And,

and she was a D1 athlete, Penn State basketball. And she had a lady that was teaching our kids about

food and nutrition. And how to read the labels. And we did apples, beats.

Was it apples, beats, carrots. And she brought a juicer in and juiced it all. And everybody got to

taste it. You know, kids ain't having beats all the time. You know what I mean? And did they like it?

Most of them liked it. More of them liked it than didn't like it. And she got into this whole

in depth education, you know, on food and nutrition and what it does, you know, for your body. And,

and I thought it was super amazing to, for them to get exposed to that as such a young age. I

didn't have that education, you know, at that age. I don't have that. They're already getting that

level of, of education. That is incredible. That that she's taking the time to do that and educate

those kids. But at the same time, why isn't that in our education system? Like why aren't we

teaching kids how to be healthy, how to be financially responsible, how to be human? Yeah. Yeah.

Huge. Huge. I mean, you'd think that would be just baseline fundamentals level class.

Right. Right. No doubt. More important than some of those other things. We could build upon those

things. Those are important. Yeah. But the fundamentals that foundation, we don't got that.

These things don't matter. It's scary now that, you know, six months ago, my son was born. We're

already looking at schools to go to and all that. It's a little, a little scary. It's going to be a

great journey, man. It's going to be a cool, I'm looking forward to seeing you grow through that

journey because it's a game changer. You already know, but it's, I mean, just it just new levels,

you know, every year, you know, it's just a new level and different than when you start adding

multiple. Yeah. Yeah. It's a whole new level of blessings and love and challenges.

Lessons, man, for sure. You know, all of that stuff. It's so, it's obviously life changing because

you brought a life into this world. But as soon as I saw my son was born, like nothing that I

didn't matter anymore, you know, and I look back and I reflect in things that bothered me.

Why would I even waste my time on that stuff? It just, it just, it didn't become about me anymore.

I want to, it's given me so much motivation, an ungodly amount of motivation.

Would you name him August? Yeah. Why?

I like it. I like it. So my wife and I, we were down in Aruba. We thought we were going to have

a girl. We didn't find out. Never been in Aruba. I heard good things about it. Yeah. You like it?

Yeah. I've been to like Nepal and India. Okay. And those are the places I'd rather go to.

Like I want to go be the minority in, in some of these parts of the world, like really get cultured

and stuff. What's your favorite place? I mean, it has to be Nepal because that was the first time,

I mean, I literally threw a dart at the map on the wall and I was like, I'm going there.

Where's Nepal? So you got India here. Nepal is this little area to the, the northeast of India. Okay.

Borders it in China. You like them? Love it. Wow. The people are amazing. Wow. They got, so I can

look back and I'm still learning life lessons from that trip. It was the first time I've ever been

on an international trip. It's the first time I've been on a solo trip. The first time I was gone

longer than like a week. I went there for a month. Why? Kind of had a crossroads in my life, divorced with

no real good relationship, really wanted kids. Just kind of just struggling a little bit. You know,

just need to say let's go to Nepal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Well, I had coffee with my

Vegas, maybe you know, I'm saying, but I'm doing what's in Nepal. Yeah. I'm gonna go here. Yeah. Okay.

The complete opposite of Sin City. That's for sure. So yeah. My buddy Alec Rieger. He's like my big

brother. He is a black belt in life wisdom. And you know, kind of jumping around here, but

if you're struggling being a white belt, go find a mentor. You know, gotta have mentor. Gotta have

mentor. Gotta have mentor. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you were talking about my, you know, journey.

I'm thinking man, that's only because I had some really good mentors, man. Yeah. Great ones,

right? Yeah. It matters just the best. Oh, yeah. It does matters. Well, because they've already done

it. You don't got to go reinvent the wheel. Yeah. I just follow in their footsteps. They got it.

So, so I had, I had coffee with them. I was like, man, I really, I think I just need to go

somewhere. He's like, yeah, I'm gonna go to Nepal. I was like, what? Where's that same thing? He's

like, just go. Just go go for a month. You're gonna want to come back after a couple weeks. Stay

out there. So I did. I booked, you know, my departure and in a rival flights and it was a 30 days

apart. And I booked three nights in a hostel in, in Katmandu, and then left everything else open

ended. And it was the most extraordinary journey of my life. So I just, I asked the, you're losing me

and I'm gonna be real with you. No, like just because there might be, because you attract, you

know, it's like I did get educated at Mercyhurst. But I am also from Youngstown to Fundamentals. So

Katmandu, the only thing I know about that is like, Katmandu, like Katmandu, this, you know what I mean?

Like I have no idea what that is. Or hostel. And I'm gonna be real. Right? No. I do have a business

degree. You hope I'm not embarrassing any of our Mercyhurst. I'm not out there. But Katmandu's got to

educate me. Katmandu's capital of Nepal. Okay. It's their biggest city. Okay. And a hostel,

man, you pay like five bucks a night and you got other tourists, backpackers,

trekkers. Okay. Kind of mean like a dorm. Dorm. Dorm. Dorm. Dorm. Dorm. Dorm.

All right. All right. Type deal. Which sounds like, oh man, like my, my, my stuff's not locked up.

Like I'm gonna get rated. No, I mean, it ain't like that. Those, those people are the coolest

people from all around the world just trying to have a good time just like you are. So, so yeah,

book, you know, three nights in, in a five dollar a night hostel with, you know, 12 other people

in the room full of bunk beds. And I just asked the, the hostel manager, like, hey, what should I do?

He's like, oh, you need to go up to Pokera. Like Pokera? No, Pokera. I was like, okay. Well,

what's, where's that? It's like, it's an eight hour bus ride away. All right. So, it's

okay, now our bus right up to Pokera. And we got roads and highways here. You're literally dirt

road. Oh, dirt road on the side of a mountain, like mountain ever says out there. Right. So it's the

Himalayas. So, it's, it's one road that barely fits a bus. And you got, you know, two lane traffic.

Oh, no guide rails at all. So you look out the window of the bus and you're like, oh, that's

5,000 feet to my death. You know, shut the curtain, try to go to sleep, finally make it to Pokera.

Ask the, that ain't not where it's supposed to go out. Yeah, no, man, no, man. No, but it was,

again, got out to Pokera. Ask the hostel manager, what should I do? He's like, take a trek.

Took a 10 day trek through the Himalayas. The most, the experience that I'm drawn from the most

in my life was when I'm, I'm trekking up this mountain. And I'm kind of like feeling, feeling

bad about myself, feeling sorry for myself. Like, it's the little weak-minded. I had a guide.

The guide spoke maybe 20 words of English. So I didn't really have too much communication with

him. He wasn't telling me where we were going. He just like took off. He was kind of walking in my

past. I was a little pissed off. So I'm just like, I can, and, and dude, I'm like decked out in

Solomon boots and our Terrick's gear and like really, really nice trekking stuff.

Well, here comes a little old lady. She's got this strap around her forehead to a, to a pack on her

back that's full of wood, firewood. She's in this little white gown with flip flops on.

She's trekking. I see her. She just goes and smokes me up the mountain. I'm like,

shit, my life ain't that bad. You know, like if this lady is happy that she's, you know,

doing manual labor. I think that she got a strong net. Yeah, yeah, call her tie her for days.

But if they can be happy and have a fraction of what we have over here, like happiness is in here.

100% you know, hundreds of go find your happiness. Be grateful for what you have. Yes, I think I've

gotten, I've gotten caught up in, in that in my life too. Kind of keeping up with the Joneses.

He's got a truck. I got to get a truck. He's got to watch. I got to get a watch. You know, when like,

shit don't matter. No, no, that shine goes away after two weeks. Yeah, no doubt at all.

No, but what matters is, you know, the time I spent playing basketball with the kids

on the basketball court in Nepal, when literally they don't have shoes on and they're playing basketball

and stepping in donkey shit, you know, and not caring, having the time of their lives,

you know, and having some American, and I clearly tower over over these kids, just spending time

with them and seeing how happy they were to just interact with somebody like great perspective.

Yeah, man. How long ago was that? That was 2017, 2017. Eight years. Yeah. When did you meet your wife?

Two years ago actually, man. Pittsburgh. Yeah, yeah. In Pittsburgh. Yeah. Okay. So,

when out, I met her at a mutual friend's birthday party. I just shook her hand, didn't say another

word to her the rest of the night, and it was electric. It was like, oh, I found home.

So I peppered her DMs on Instagram. Nice. She was like, ah, see? DMs, so for media recruiting.

So I'm trying to tell people. Yeah, man. That was before you had all these followers. Yeah, yeah,

yeah, for sure. I mean, she's the greatest person I've ever met. I wouldn't want anybody else to be

the mother to my children. She motivates me. She believes in me. Like she's, she's just,

oh, that's awesome. She's the best. She's the best from Pittsburgh. So she's from Pittsburgh,

went to North Allegheny. N.A. Yeah. Okay. She's from Waxford. Shout out to the Tigers. Yeah, that's

right. Yeah. Got my son doing a little wrestling and he's he wrestles for N.A. Tigers. So

a program seven. I'm like keeping an eye on your parenting and everything. I'm like, I

that's what I should have seen it yesterday, man. You know, I get in the house and long day of

working date night was last night. You know, that's another thing that I've tried to stay focused on.

You know, I got 10 years or Wednesday night state night or just just planned date. No,

just planned. Yeah. Yeah. But just 10, you know, 10 years married.

Mhm. Be 11 years in a couple months, 16 years with the same woman.

To me. Never veered. And I got that game, you know, from other mentors of like keeping that date

night, you know, you could kind of lose yourself. You know, you get kids and, you know, you lose focus

on yourself. And that can affect the kids because you love the kids so much. You put so much time

and energy into the kids. But if you forget about us and we fall apart, what's that do to the kids

that you love so much, right? You got to put that time and that work in and that. So we were,

you know, I was, I was excited and had to come home and get changed. I came from the youth program,

getting changed to go and I get in and I see my son out there. He was a good kid.

son out there took his brother's bike, you know, four-year-olds bike and was out in the mud,

you know, driving in the area. We don't have grass yet because we just moved and my wife's like,

hey, you know, you got to stop that, you know, take his bike, he's ballin' and crying, you know,

and my wife is so strong. She's an athlete in like type A, you know? Like she, I met my match,

you know what I mean? And but when it comes to the boys, she's soft. She's soft, you know,

she says I'm the same way with my daughter, you know what I mean? So she says she won't admit it,

you know what I mean? But I mean that she can't be her normal self with the boys.

You know what I mean? So she's like, he ain't listening to her, you know, she knows, you know, he

knows she'll give him five, six shots, you know what I mean? Before, you know, and I don't give

five, six shots, you know? And and some like, I'm watching this, I walk outside and I'm like, hey,

you got 30 seconds, I'm not gonna ask you again, you got 30 seconds to get the bike back, you know,

over here, mommy told you multiple times. I feel like he's like, how do I use up all 30 seconds to

make this close? You know what I'm saying? He's nine. So he's like, you know, his strategy in his

mind, I could tell was like to make it right in it like 28 seconds, 29 seconds, just a mess with me,

you know what I'm saying? So I'm like, hey, I'm just letting you know, man, you do what you won't take

your time. I don't care if you do or you don't, but if you don't, it's gonna be consequences,

right? So he, his plan backfired, he goes to turn the thing back him like, you got 10 seconds,

he falls off the bike, the bike don't make it back, right? And I try to, I try to not really have

to put my hands on them very often. I mean, I can count on maybe a finger or two at times I've had to

like snatch them up or get them a little awakening. And I'm thinking, you know, what, how am I going to

handle this? I didn't have a plan for what I was going to do, you know what I mean? But I knew I was

going to do something, you know, so he comes back and I'm like, all right, I ain't gonna, I ain't

gonna spank him, I ain't gonna snatch him up. What I'm gonna do? Wall sits, three minutes, wall sits,

my dude, that's what you got yourself. So, and if you drop, I'm adding a minute. So you know, man,

he ripped off three minutes crying. You know the main crying? I'm thinking shit, I don't know,

daddy could pull off three minutes. I got to go practice. Casey tells me you got to do it with me,

you know what I mean? And then the little one that started it all, he was doing the wall sits with

him because he wants to do everything that his brother does. You know what I mean? So now he's doing

the wall sits his brother's crying doing wall sits. He's over there. Yes, yes. So but that that was my

parenting lesson for today. What would you say, you know, as a mentor, you know, for others and

Jiu-Jitsu, you know, what would you say are some of the traits of the people that get the best

over time? Is there anything that you could find, you know, that has some commonality to it?

You know, there's always things that are different because people are different, but is there any

commonality to... Yeah, yeah, you got to crush your ego, man. You cannot have an ego. You cannot

come into the room expecting you get better, but thinking that you know everything, you have to be a

student. Coachability. Coachability. You have to be coachable. Now this is life, right?

Sports and Mutez life. It's exactly right. In anything that you do, you have to get more knowledge.

And there's so much more knowledge out there than you'll ever be able to gain. So you know that you

always have to learn, right? And there's always stuff to learn, right? Take Gordon Ryan, for example,

that through trains, 365 days a year, you know, he's always learning. John Dana, her talks about

how he comes in and he can retain information. Like get good at retaining information. That's a

skill in itself, right? Coachability. Retaining... How do you think people can best retain information?

Yeah. On and off the mat, studying, watching film, breaking down other people's matches,

check out my Instagram for techniques. Watching film? Yeah, yeah, for sure.

That and then having like focused training sessions, right? Where what do you mean? You're either...

I like what Gary Vee says a lot. He says, triple down on your strengths. So like,

definitely work your strengths. But also if you're working out of a position that you're not that good at

go and get into that position. Kill your ego, go get under a side control or go get underneath

mount on purpose and work out of those positions. Or go get into a fully extended arm bar.

You know, there's a little bit of fear that comes with that. But how is you going to learn how to

escape, you know, these submissions or these positions without actually diving into the fire?

Yeah. Be vulnerable. Yeah, be vulnerable for sure. Have fun with it too. You know, like you can get...

you do hit plateaus. It can get kind of dull, you know. And that's how you get out of the plateaus.

You got to work on something that you suck at. Again, just having a training regimen where you have

stated goals and just check off those boxes, man. Write it down. Don't type it up. Don't have it on

your phone. Literally take pen to pad and write it down. There's that, you know, some mind connection

where you're actually getting what's out of your mind and physically writing it down on a piece of

paper. That's... It's a little bit... It's immense itself better in you than like typing it out or

reading something else that somebody else wrote. You know, so construct your own training regimen.

And only compare yourself to yourself. You know, there's goals ahead for, there's mentors on the room.

If they can do it, I can do it type of thing for sure. How do you balance that? Because I agree with you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree with this. Right. So some people could be confused by well, you guys just

got an unsan. Yeah. Find somebody else that's good or doing something to remind myself that I can do

that too. Yeah. And that could be me, but then you're saying, well, it's really just you versus you.

In your plateaus, because I can definitely get into the comparison. Mind frame especially when I'm

in those plateaus, you're like, oh, well, he just got real good over the last six months and she

just got her black belt. But if I just compare myself to last week or to yesterday, last month,

last six months, whatever it is, if I'm just looking at my growth and noticing that I am growing,

albeit maybe a little bit small, maybe a little bit less than than I'm used to or man, I've been stuck

at like I like to body lock pass. I've been body lock and passing for like four years. It's my

main thing. But there's times where I'm like, this is this is kind of like the only thing that I do.

But man, I do it a whole lot better than I did four years ago. You know, so I think it is you do

have to have a balance of where I can make it to where he or she made it. But right now to get out of

this rut, I just need to realize that every time I walk through that door, I'm getting a little bit

better. Love it. Yeah. So tell us about the untappable white belt program. That's good marketing,

isn't it? Unbelievable marketing. Unbelievable marketing. Yeah. Who don't want to be a part of that?

So let's take it from a business side of things. White belts are the biggest conglomerate in

Jiu-Jitsu, right? So you're appealing to the masses. I really going back to like the basics, right?

I made it to black belt and the common denominator was man, I focus on those basics.

And if you break down the basics, what needs to come first is the defense. You know, you're going to

get tapped out 10,000 times before you even know what you're what's going on. So that naturally happens,

right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. In the beginning. Yeah. You're always on defense.

For sure. So if you're always going to be on defense, then get good at it. Right? I'm not saying,

even in your class structure, you're going to learn offensive positions and offensive submissions and

all that stuff. But that's not going to happen before you're getting tapped out before you're on the

defense, right? So you can get in like think about the room that even you go and train in.

Doesn't it kind of like a little bit of a blow to your ego when you can't tap somebody out?

You know, those are the most annoying people in the room. But those are also the ones that stick in

your head. So like, be that person. You know, once you have a good set of defensive, a good defensive

foundation, then you're not going to be as worried about being in those positions because you're

going to know how to escape them. You're going to know how to get on the offensive, how to use those

that foundation to grow offensively. And you're always going to have to escape, right?

Escape out of a position, escape out of a submission. You're going to have defensive concepts that

you're going to use throughout your entire jujitsu career. So really cement those as a wipe out because

you're always there anyway. So really get good at it. So you know, I was saying today also,

that's fire. That's great. I mean, who don't want to be a part of that program? That's awesome.

It's so true. I mean, it's so true. You know, I was saying, you know, not many people, you know,

I probably really won't find any that accomplish anything really great and don't have

some group of people that don't like them or hate them. So I'd imagine, you know,

somewhere between the 3000 and 33,000 followers, you had to have a couple.

Haters or hecklers or you don't mean or any, any, you know, how do you handle just over?

Maybe if it's not even that, but you know, how have you handled haters in general?

Yeah, if you don't have haters, you're not doing something right.

Right. You know, congratulations. Yeah.

Congratulations, right? You earned this.

Yes. Because Joe Rogan said this a few times, but I heard it most recently. I think he was talking

to Andrew Schultz, but he's like, he thinks of everybody as a, as a baby as like a child.

And that's just like their inner child speaking up. Right.

A lot of the, a lot of like the negativity I get will be like, all that will never work.

That doesn't work. And so my, it's funny that they just jump to that conclusion because my

response is always, well, hey, go try it. Let me know how it goes. So a lot of the hate is just like

this internal kind of false belief that all that's not going to work. That's because they don't

have a vision, right? And there's probably a little bit of jealousy in there for sure. You know,

and again, it's cool that I got, you know, a following and they're making these videos,

but it's not that hard. Go do it yourself if you're just going to fire out some hate.

Right. Let's see what you got. Yeah.

You know, teach us some ready to learn.

Yeah. Put yourself out there. Yes. For sure.

So I definitely like playing the weeds in the comments.

It'll fire back. I was, I was asked, do you ever get it? You get into mixes. Oh yeah. Yeah.

That's hilarious. It is. It is. Because it's, because it is hilarious to me.

It is hilarious that, you know, some dude who's hiding behind a profile picture that's black

is critiquing what I'm doing. You know, so it's fun for me.

In the time that it would take out of your day to go do that, I ain't doing it. I've never done that.

Yeah. Yeah. I can't do that. So as I'm growing my following,

the algorithm likes when you respond. So yeah. So I do respond. But man,

and like it took me 30, I'm 37, it took me 37 years to get everything I ever wanted in life,

which is a loving wife and a son who smiles at me. That could be a daughter too. Yeah.

But like I have everything that I ever wanted in life. What's some

Jamaican in Iowa, who's commenting on my, you know, that doesn't matter. So it's a lot of

perspective, a lot of perspective. It's kind of, I think it stops a lot of people from

doing what they want to do. Because they're so worried about the criticism that may come.

You know what I mean? From putting yourself out there. For sure.

Be it social media or whatever it is. But I've watched a lot of people

not do what they probably could do. And sometimes specifically tied to social media

that would help them grow their, their impact on others. You know, because really the,

it always just boils down to the value and the impact that you're making on someone else.

You know, the main thing is, can you can you serve more coffee to other people and make their

day brighter? You know, can you serve more jiu-jitsu through all you're doing is serving more people.

You know what I mean? If you didn't do it on social media and you just kept it, you know,

local, you could serve that little pack of people. But how about serving thousands of people,

people in Australia that should help them that are appreciating that and what do that do for their

life and all that stuff. That comes at a price. That makes it easier too when I'm getting a little

bit of criticism, but I could scroll up one comment. Man, this is fire. I just hit this. Thanks,

coach.

You know, there's a lot more positive.

We've had people message us man and say man,

they were thinking about taking their life.

And due to listening to the last, you know,

few episodes, you know, that they decided

to not take their life.

I mean, we've had that probably a good handful of times.

It's all worth it.

So like man, I could take these trolls.

You know what I mean?

I could take this stuff for these people

that we can go out there and reach and go out there and put.

Real impact.

A real, you save multiple people's lives.

You just said that alone is motivation enough to keep going.

I mean, if you did that, if if you put out 5,000 podcasts

and one person said, hey, you saved my life from episode 53,

it's all worth it.

Hey man, right?

Yeah, it's all worth it.

Same approach I take with the kids, with the youth program.

You could just get a couple of them.

You know, we're gonna get more.

But if you just saved a couple of those kids that otherwise

wouldn't have done it's all worth it, man.

You know, you're getting, you got a kids and, you know,

a child and a lot of changes, you know, in your life,

as you age, you know, you look at things differently,

you start thinking of the legacy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What do you, you know, what legacy do you wanna leave?

Not that you're going anywhere anytime soon,

but what legacy do you wanna leave?

I was just talking to Jeff.

Looking for a space to open up a gym.

Maybe around here.

Beautiful.

Yeah, awesome.

Yeah, yeah.

There's some empty spaces actually at your address.

There is.

Yeah.

But definitely opening up a gym.

Once I found Jiu Jitsu, I found my life.

I can say that looking back when I first found it,

I probably didn't realize that.

I definitely didn't know that it would do everything

that it's done for me.

But, you know, I mean, you've heard it time and time again,

I think you've even said it.

When you love what you do, you don't really work, right?

So, as, and that's Jiu Jitsu for me.

So, I definitely want to open a gym.

And it's more about helping people

building a community, building a safe space.

For me, Jiu Jitsu's way more than, you know,

being able to beat up the next person.

No doubt.

It is, I said this in my black belt speech, man.

Jiu Jitsu is my everything.

I go and train when I'm happy, when I'm sad,

when I need to think through business decision,

when I don't wanna talk at all, when, you know, I go.

Like, if there's anything that's holding me up

or really pumping me up and anywhere in between,

I walk through that door, because it is just,

it fills my cup.

So, I wanna give back what I got, you know?

And I've learned all this through Jiu Jitsu.

So, the gym, yeah.

So, maybe something in the area.

Yeah, maybe in this area.

Definitely.

That'll be cool.

Definitely, hopefully by summer.

Okay.

Yeah.

Wow.

Right around a corner.

Oh yeah.

That's a perfect time to do it, too.

It is, it is.

It seems, it seems some spaces on Monday.

But, and then the real estate thing,

I don't think I'll ever stop helping people buy homes, you know,

because that's another life changing impact.

What are you doing with that stuff?

Yeah, that's my full time gig,

so residential real estate.

And again.

What do you mean, sell it?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So you're a real owner.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Gotcha.

Yeah.

So, 95% of my leads come from the gym.

Okay.

It's amazing, right?

It's cool ecosystem.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Again, I would have never, man, I was selling welding automation

15 years ago before I even found your Gits.

I had never thought that it would have taken me, you know,

planning me in these shoes today.

So I walk into the gym, I pick up a lead, I go get training,

my heart's full, my mind's clear, I go home to loving wife

and a smiling son like, man, like I'm good.

And so the next step is open a gym.

I think that'll help my real estate business as well.

No doubt.

It could feed each other.

Yeah.

Awesome, man.

And then just trying to reach as many people as I can

through social media, I respond to every comment, every DM,

probably put out some more, definitely will put out

some more instructions that's been going, those are cool.

Very good.

Yeah, very good, man.

So how would people follow you on social media?

Yeah, absolutely.

Tanner Hall BJ, on everything, everything YouTube, Instagram,

I do have a TikTok, that one escapes me a little bit.

Okay.

Yep.

And then yeah, just so Tanner Hall, so that's T-A-N

is in nephew, N is in nephew, ER Hall, HA,

WL, BJJ.

BJJ, yep.

Okay, at Tanner Hall BJJ, so if you guys want to check out

that untappable white belt program and check out these videos,

I think you'll like it.

And obviously getting to know you a little bit more,

you see not only the instruction that people can find value

from but the person in the source is great,

that it's coming from.

Oh, man.

And so it's not about even what you do is who you are.

I appreciate that.

And it's great to have you here, man,

and appreciate you taking time away from your life

and your family and all that to come add some value,

hopefully add some value to some people.

Absolutely.

I mean, you've built such a great business here

and then your social media and your podcast.

This is an honor for me to come on here.

So thank you.

Appreciate you, man.

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