Special Guest, Trevor Paschall

Count money man, money man, bitches.

I'm trying to talk, trying to talk to my beast, but

what's up gang welcome to another episode of the grind cast get ready.

It's a new day.

And we got my new young friend Trevor on the scene today.

Now, how do I pronounce the last name?

Pass child pass school.

Pass school.

Yes.

Okay.

So P.A.S.C.

H.A.L.L.

pronounced pass school.

Okay.

So real quick background of Mr. Trevor.

I was I was riding the other day in in the car and him and his friend were driving by my house.

And they said nice car, you know, out of the out of the window.

I had to top down and I'm thinking man, I got to go back and meet these young men and see what they're up to.

Something special about them because I deal with a lot of young people, you know, just like a coach, you know, and

coaches in your life, you know, right right now in our business and in our industry, you know, we got people from

20 to 60, you know, 18 to 60, but a lot of our

people that we're working with are young people.

And so I know special when I see special, you know, and it only takes a

moment, you know, for me to be able to catch on.

So I'm like, turn around and see what's up with this young man and I pull over.

And of course, success leaves clue just your energy, man.

I can I can fill your energy, you know, from one car to the next.

And I'm like, man, I'm gonna turn around and see see who this young man is and he said he was going to go run track at North Carolina.

And so I know to run track at North Carolina means that you got to be a special

special athlete, man, you got to be doing pretty good.

They ain't just inviting anybody out there on a on a scholarship to run at North Carolina.

And then your friend who was in the car with you, I had an opportunity to college.

She was gonna go to just spoke at I think the week, the week prior.

And so let me tell you all about a told Trevor, I think we're gonna do something with

with some teens in the area or teens in the country that are that are rising doing something special.

We haven't named it yet, but Trevor's our first one.

And I think we need to highlight some some teens out there.

So if you know of any any special send the send the resume and reasons why over to Josh or Alyssa.

And we can put that in the Josh.

You can do that right.

Put it up there somewhere they can contact somebody.

And so this is going to be Trevor is just getting ready to graduate or just

graduate right just graduated North Catholic class of 22 going to university at North

Carolina going to be a Tar Hill D1 recruit triple crown for Sprints and the 2021 season

and the 2021 200 meter state champ right state champ four gold medals at the

Whipio championships.

And so those you guys that don't know what that is for our listeners, you know,

in other places at a country Whipio in in our area and Pittsburgh area.

Sometimes that's that's I know, especially in football.

That's even bigger than than sometimes the state, you know, situation is so to win four

medals at that is is a big deal.

So start out telling us a little bit about your you're upbringing, man.

Parents family got to tell me a little bit over here.

But tell us a little bit about you upbringing.

Absolutely.

So I grew up cranberry Pennsylvania.

I've lived here my whole life.

18 about to be 19 years.

My mom grew up in Johnstown.

So she lived about two hours away.

My dad grew up in Rochester, which is about 15, 20 minutes from where I live.

They met they actually went to the same college for one year.

They went to Kent State.

My dad played football there.

My mom ran track.

She ended up transferring to ship in Spur.

OK.

And so they didn't know each other.

That's how you end up with all these athletes.

Yeah.

Yes.

Right.

D1 football, D1 track.

Yeah.

And my mom was a state champion basketball player as well.

Nice.

So it's nice all over the place.

OK.

And so they went to the same college for a year did not know each other ended up

at the same company in the business world.

I believe it was Merck.

And they met and they just headed off.

And 18 years later here, I am.

Beautiful.

And the whole family, you were telling me, got an older brother.

So you're in the middle.

You're the middle child.

The middle child.

Older brother at Pitt, younger brother getting ready to graduate next year.

From North Catholic, but what was cool to me is to see all the diversity in sports.

You know, a lot of times you'll see like the white brothers, you know, in football.

Yeah.

They all feast at football.

And man, he's like, yeah, I'm track and I'm, I'm hoops.

My brother was hoops in this and younger brothers, what's soccer?

Swimming and swimming.

Said they're all over to play.

So so you got some athletes all over all over to board.

What did what did you learn anything that you could say you've grabbed from each of your parents

or anything you learn from your older brother that stands out to you?

I think the first thing, the one of things I learned from my dad is just that to put other people first.

He is all in on helping people doing this and that.

Like he coached my sports team, my brother sports teams.

He was super active in the community for the last like 19, 20 years of our lives.

Like he has been doing so much and he's known by so many people.

Oh, that's the St. Killing coach.

That's the North Catholic coach.

Everyone knows him.

He's so helpful.

He's so kind.

He's the best man I've ever met in my life.

And you know, if I can be anything like him, I think I'll be very successful.

All right.

So dad's putting other people first and kind of got that big heart to want to go out there and serve and help others.

Would you would you grab from mom?

She again, she's one of the best people I know in my life.

She is like just the epitome of a great person.

She's so grounded.

She's so intelligent.

She's always helping me make the right decisions, pushing the interactions that I don't need.

I don't know that I need to be, you know, she knows best for me and she'll push me where I need to be.

And she's just she's a very, like she's an amazing woman.

I want to know how would they challenge?

How did they challenge you or did they not challenge you growing up?

You know, you got two D1 athletes that marry each other, right?

And then they have children.

So it's like, you know, I wonder because my wife and I are both athletes.

And my wife was a good athlete.

And you know, I was small, but I'd like to think I was a decent athlete.

And so now we have children and I wonder sometimes what's that balance between pushing and challenging the kid,

because that's how you got to, how do you grow if nobody's pushing you?

Nobody's challenging.

You got to push and challenge a little bit.

But I've also heard stories of people that have pushing challenge the child so much that they run the opposite direction

and don't want anything to do with that sport or that education or, you know, that thing or whatever.

So being that you've kind of lived through that, you know, right now, what would you,

how would you describe that relationship with mom and dad?

Did they push you?

Did they challenge you at all?

Were they kind of more relaxed with it?

What was that approach?

So I mean, first, I think I'm really grateful that they weren't overbearing.

You know, they didn't scare me away from anything, any of my sports that I wanted to pursue.

Like they were never focused on this, do this, do this.

It was like, I don't want to say pushing.

It was encouragement.

It was like, if you want to do this, we will support you.

We will help you get where you want to be, but you need to put the work in.

You need to motivate yourself.

You need to want to get there for us to help you get there.

Okay.

So, you know, being that you are getting there, you know, earning a scholarship, that's a huge accomplishment.

You know, what people see is the times and the track times and all of that.

We'll get into some of that stuff.

But what are some of the things that maybe people can't see, you know, that you've had to put into

winning medals or winning a state title because it's not just, you know, you were just born with it.

You know, obviously you got some gifts that you had to build off of, right?

But it probably wasn't just, hey, I'm not going to practice.

I'm going to kind of just eat whatever I want to eat and smoke and drink and party and show up and

win track meets, you know, so what were some of the things that you've had to do that maybe people wouldn't see?

I mean, I think people don't see all the, you know, early workouts, all the like,

what do you mean early, what do you mean early workouts?

Like five, six a.m. sometimes, you know, depending on where I need to be during the week, during the week, some of the days.

Yeah, like, because during before school, sometimes, during track season, I don't know.

It didn't get that part.

So five, six o'clock in the morning on school days.

Sometimes throughout the week, you were working out, you get workouts in practice was after school.

Some days I wouldn't have an opportunity to lift with homework or whatever.

So left would go before school.

Okay.

Yeah.

And so how many people would, would go with you to those early morning lifts?

Not a lot.

Not most of the time it's just me.

Yeah.

But you know, sometimes my friends would come with me.

Sometimes I don't even track friends.

Just some of my guys that wanted to get a lift in.

Yeah.

It was always a good time with them.

Okay.

So was it, were you pretty consistent with that?

Um, I would say it was like once or twice a week that I'd be doing that.

So because by yourself, by myself, yes.

Yeah.

So the discipline right there, you know, at your age, you know, 16, 17, 18, you know, I don't know how long this was going on for.

But not too many young folks want to get up that early in the morning and go work out.

Go to school.

I buy yourself then go to school, then go back to practice.

So we're starting to get into the things that, yeah, he won a state state championship.

Got all these medals, got a D one scholarship.

Man, it must be nice to be Trevor, but would it be nice to be Trevor at 430 in the morning when you're getting up as a high school student?

A big breakfast before you're left to make sure you have enough energy for the day.

I have friends that don't eat breakfast.

They drink their coffee in the morning and get on with their day.

I don't know how they do that.

Uh, and then obviously on the weekends, you know, it's the same thing.

You know, late nights with my friends turn into early mornings.

So I'm saying, nah, guys, I'm going home at 10 like I got to get up tomorrow to go left.

I got to get up to go run.

I got to go get a morning.

So I'm not staying out.

I'm you guys do what you need to do, but I'm going home.

So a lot of times in high school during your during your career, you would come home early when everybody else was going out late.

You're getting home 10, 11 o'clock and getting a good night's sleep.

She could get up and train again the next day.

Consistently, you were making those decisions, those sacrifices.

Those are the those are the key things.

Why do you think some people can't make those sacrifices?

What made you make those sacrifices, you know, versus maybe others that are challenged to make those sacrifices at your age?

I think that a lot of people think, oh, I'm really young right now, you know, I can work later on in life.

I can do this and that, but I want to get a jump on that.

You know, if I work now, I won't be working in 40 years.

So I want to get ahead, start.

I want to be ahead of the game.

I love it. I love it.

And so you're you're talking about basically people your age, young people sometimes thinking I got.

I got another 20 years to get focused.

I got another I could do that in another 10 years right now.

I just want to I just want to have fun.

Yeah. Go drink, go out party.

Do all this and that.

Yep. And your mindset was was what I want to get it now.

Fun later.

I want to get it now.

Pay now. Play later.

Absolutely. Right.

Absolutely.

Because either way, you got to pay. Yeah.

Pay now and play later or you could play now.

You know what happens later.

You got to pay later.

But either way, you got to pay.

Who do you draw inspiration from?

Who you know, when you needed some inspiration or motivation, who have you drawn inspiration from on your journey?

I think so two professional athletes that kind of push me or at least like I look up to Trayvon Bermell,

because he came back from a career ending injury.

They said he'd never run again.

And he had the fastest time in the world last year.

Wow.

And Fred Curley, he was a 400 meter runner, switched events.

He's running the one and the two now.

They said he couldn't do it.

He's got world leading times.

You know, he's competing against the best of the best in events that people thought that he wasn't going to be good at.

And he's doing it.

He's proven him in one of his favorite quotes is yesterday's price is not today's price.

Oh, and explain to me what that means to you.

So you know, if you're not working hard one day, someone else is yesterday's price of success is not today's price.

If you're if you're lacking on one day, you have to catch up the next and the next and the next.

So you always got to keep being consistent, working hard, getting better as much as you can.

You know, so you're not paying today's price, but you're not prepared to pay that price.

A lot of that is discipline.

How would you describe to somebody, you know, discipline, having discipline?

Just having the will to get comfortable being uncomfortable.

I like that a lot because like you have to get out of your comfort zone.

If you're comfortable, you're never going to get anywhere.

Can't grow.

You can't grow.

Can everything in growth mode is outside of your comfort zone.

Absolutely.

So this this, did you say as what was his name, Trayvon?

Trayvon Bermell.

Okay.

How did he come back from those injuries?

Did what did you pull from that?

Metal and physical.

What did you get from him?

A lot of full physical work behind the scenes, you know,

where nobody saw, you know, people were not expecting him to be ready to run when he was,

because he wasn't, you know, posting all my workouts.

I'm doing this and that he was doing it.

What was he doing?

Did you remember what kind of stuff was doing?

Again, again, it was like behind the scene.

So it was he was doing his thing, getting ready.

And then he came out, no one was expecting it.

And he blasted a fast time and everyone was like, oh, he's like, he's ready to run.

He's back.

Yeah.

What was the injury?

It was an ACL tear.

Okay.

So it was serious.

And then you said you drew inspiration from somebody else.

Fred Curly.

Fred, okay.

And then what about that, Fred?

Um, just like not giving into what other people have to say, you know,

focusing on yourself, knowing that what you're capable of and if you believe in yourself,

you can do it because he was, he's a fantastic 400 runner.

He was and still is.

But he just wanted to run the 100 and the 200.

He switched people were saying, oh, he's not going to be successful.

He's a 400 runner.

He can't sprint, but he's keeping up with everyone else.

You know, he's one of the top five times in the world right now.

So he's really, really well.

And you ran a hundred and 200.

Yes.

Right?

Yeah.

And what did you tell me that time was?

100?

Uh, 1070.

1070?

Yeah.

And then the 200 was 2160.

Beautiful, man.

That's fast.

And then so tell me a little bit about more of some of your times.

What were some of your best times?

What were some of those medals?

Give me a little bit of those accomplishments.

Um, so last year at Webbyls, I wasn't really running for time.

I was running to be as successful as I could when as many medals as I could at that

meet because like I ran six races in a span of like three and a half, four hours that

day.

So it was a lot of my body.

So me and my coach talked about it.

We were like, we.

He could go for records, but if I go for a record in the 400, I don't want to blow my

chances later on in the 200.

Like I wanted to be as successful as possible and then when I got to state, I could focus

on running my fastest times.

And I did.

I ran my personal best at state in the 400 last year.

Love it.

Yeah.

Love it.

So was that a relay?

No, the 400 by yourself.

Yeah, the 400 by yourself.

Yeah.

Is that what you want to state in?

Yeah, no, the 200, the 200.

I was running in the 400.

I was running in the 400.

Okay.

So that means you saved your best for when your best was required.

Absolutely.

What was the process leading up to that?

What do you think got you to give your best and land your best at that very moment?

There's a lot that goes into it, both mental and physical because earlier in the season,

that's when you're training hard.

You're hitting everything, all the reps, fast as you can, like long as you can.

And then later on in the season, championship season, you're kind of tapering your workouts.

I would go to the track for 45 minutes, get a stretch, get a light run in, a couple of

sprints and then be done.

You know, you want to give your body as much rest as possible to be successful.

You don't want to overdo it, but you also don't want to completely slack off and rest

too much.

Hmm.

Makes sense.

So let me, let me ask you, what was the adversity like dealing with that hamstring injury?

And what other adversities could you say that you've had to overcome and how did you overcome

them?

The last season, I guess the first big like adversity I dealt with, I actually, the first

big adversity I dealt with was the season before my sophomore year when COVID hit, because

I didn't get a track season.

So I was running around all these tracks by myself trying to train, get workouts in with

myself again by myself, no coach, making up my own workout, setting my own times and hitting

my own marks, like trying to be as successful as I could.

I ended up running a few meats that summer and I ended up in all the matter.

Do you have any idea where that motivation comes from that self discipline to say I'm

going to go by myself?

So at that point, it wasn't even about running that next summer.

It was about, if I don't do it now, I'll be way behind next year.

I was thinking even if I can just...

Already said okay.

So I'm going through COVID now, probably not going to have a season.

And instead of me just saying, I'll wait till next season, you're saying I'm going to gain

an edge.

Yeah.

Stay on top.

I'm going to just keep blowing through and use it as an advantage.

I'm going to just have a whole extra year of training.

Absolutely.

Okay.

And so to walk me through that adversity, that mindset, how you approached that whole

scenario.

So I mean, I was coming off of a freshman season where I was a whip your medalist.

I qualified for state.

I didn't run my best, but making it to state as a freshman was obviously still a huge

accomplishment for me.

That was something that drove me.

I wanted to get back there.

I wanted to do better.

I wanted to medal at states.

So I was really, really upset that I wasn't going to have a season.

And at that point, I was just like, even if this work doesn't pay off now, it'll pay off

next year when I get the jump.

You know, maybe I can show up out of nowhere, win a state championship, do that, and I mean,

it ended up happening.

So I think all the work was worth it.

Love it.

Self-determination, self-motivation.

What's that mind?

What's the, what's the talk in your mind when it's like, all right, I'm going to go home

and everybody else is going to go out.

I'm going to get up in the morning and I know I got practice afterwards or it's COVID.

I can enjoy this and I got the rest of my life to run.

I'm going to go to college and probably run, but I'm going to go run by myself and find

different tracks.

What is the mental battle going on?

You know, everybody has voices, unless it's just me, you know what I'm saying?

I'm not going to go to the top floor.

And so, you know, the mental conversation sometimes that I know I have to have with myself

because I'm an early riser.

I'm a grinder, been small.

My whole life had to fight for every inch.

What are those mental conversations that you have that maybe you would help give to

your little brother or people that are listening of like, here's how I've controlled and won

those mental battles?

So honestly, it's just about like really being driven and dedicated and loving what you

do.

I think if I didn't love track as much as I do, I wouldn't have been able to do that.

Like part of the reason is that I don't mind getting up in those early mornings to train

and work hard because I know that it's going to pay off and I'm enjoying what I'm doing.

Even if it's me by myself or me with a coach or me with my teammates, I'm loving what

I'm doing every minute of it.

I'm loving what I'm uncomfortable because I feel like I'm getting faster.

I love it when I'm alone in the gym because I'm gaining an edge on everybody else.

So it's just wanting to be the best and loving what I do at the same time.

Being that you come from a family, it sounds like your dad was coaching for a long time

and all that.

So if you were coaching someone right now or someone's listening to you and saying,

man, I can relate to what Trevor is saying right now.

And I'm younger and I'm looking up to him and I want to be an athlete or I want to be

a track star.

What would you tell them that they need to hear?

What advice would you give to some of these young people coming up that have those big

goals?

Two things I would say is that don't let anyone tell you that you can't do it because

if you are willing to put the work and if you are willing to be uncomfortable, you will

be able to accomplish it.

You will be able to be successful.

And if you don't love it, don't waste your time.

Even if you think, okay, maybe I'm going to work on my footwork to be better at basketball

by playing football.

If you don't love football, it's not worth it.

You can go do something else to improve your footwork for basketball.

It's not worth it if you don't love it.

You've talked a little bit about that, not listening to naysayers or not listening.

Why does that keep coming up?

Did you have people that were saying you couldn't do stuff or did you have many haters

or because you seem like a real likable person.

Seems like your whole family is likable, nice people.

It probably didn't have a lot of people that don't like you.

You're one of those people.

Seems like if they don't like you, something wrong with them.

So what did you have any haters or did you have people that were telling you or did

you hear things in the background that you weren't going to be able to do something

because it keeps coming up.

I mean, specifically with track, not really, but that kind of brings me back to my other

sports.

When I was younger, I wasn't the best at basketball.

I played lacrosse when I was younger.

I was one of the smaller kids.

I was getting pushed around because I was playing up in age group.

So that was like when I really felt that people were looking down on me thinking that I

couldn't do it.

And when I found something that I loved with track, I was like, I'm never going to let

anyone tell me that I can't do this.

I'm going to prove them wrong no matter what.

Love it.

And what are you looking forward to going to North Carolina now?

When do you go?

I'm moving in August 10th.

August 10th.

Okay.

That is the day.

I went to Pitt.

So this is the first time your parents have had a child to skate off.

How they doing with that day?

More excited or?

Oh, I mean, my dad is really, really excited.

My mom's excited too, but I know the drive down.

She's going to be coming home.

Oh, for sure.

I'm going to miss you so much.

For sure.

Are you still going to call me?

Are you going to talk to me?

Yeah, of course.

You better.

Like, that's family.

That's always going to come first.

Dev and Jackson, like, those are my brothers for life.

You know, I'm always going to be there for them no matter what.

So obviously, I'm still going to be in touch, be as close as I can with my family while

I'm gone, see him as much as I can.

What are you excited about going to North Carolina?

Competition.

I'm going to have people to train with.

I'm going to have like, it's going to be people that are faster than me all the time.

Pushing you.

Pushing me.

I can't wait.

I think that's huge to have that mindset.

You know, a lot of people run from that mindset of, man, I can't wait to get around people

that are better than me.

That are faster than me.

And that are stronger than me that are going to push me.

You know, I think a lot of times people find that area of comfort to where they're like,

man, I'd rather just go somewhere where I can win everything or I'm going to win everything.

And I'm going to be the fastest one, but really to elevate in life and anything you got

to constantly find those people that are a little bit further ahead of you.

You know, I saw you with the friend.

You mentioned, you know, sometimes needing to leave the friends and stuff like that at

the night.

What would you say?

How important is it the circle that you roll with in a mission that you're on if you're

on a mission?

Is it important that people you choose to hang around or do you think it's easy to kind

of hang around a bunch of people that are not moving in the right direction and then you

try to move in the right direction?

I think it's super important, you know, that you keep your circle with people that are driven

you know, motivated.

There was a quote I heard that like, you become just like the people you hang around.

Like the five people you're with the most is the people you become like.

So you want to be with people that are driven or motivated.

Even if they're not doing sports, you know, if they're driven for something else like my

little brother, you know, he's taking his pictures, doing his photography, shout out

Pasco photography, follow the Instagram.

There we go.

So you know, it's just, it's really important that no matter what it is that they're driven,

they're pushing towards something, you know, they're working hard, they have these goals.

And you know, I have people in my life that, you know, they drink, they smoke.

They offer me.

I'm like, no, man, I have stuff to do and they're like, I respect it good for you.

So it's mutual respect, you know, that you want to find people that are grinding for something

that are pushing for something and that respect you just as much as they respect themselves.

Amen.

Speaking of shout outs, you know, I think I don't know what social media platform that you

use the most, you know, I'm still learning and I want to learn from you that they'll tell

you I'm still learning from the young folks.

I get approval for some of the clothes I wear and they tell me I got to get a new car.

So we're getting ready to get a new car.

So next time you see me, you'll be rolling in a new wet.

I'm going to be something different.

I'll tell you what it's going to be when we're done.

I wonder if we're done here.

But but I, you know, I just want to say that I'm really impressed with you.

I knew there was a reason why we were being connected.

I turned my car around.

I don't do that all the time.

You know, there was just something in the air that I felt like I needed to talk to you

and introduce myself and learn a little bit about you.

And now it was no shock to me.

You know, when you said I was a state champ and now it's even more not a shock to me when

I get to learn more about your background and how you roll.

And so people that want to follow you, you know, I've heard, you know, I know Facebook

is like dinosaur ages, you know, that's not me.

That's not me, right?

That's where the old people are at.

And then, and then Instagram is kind of younger than that.

And then I think there's other stuff going on where the younger people are even on.

They're running from us on Instagram.

Instagram too.

What's your main platform?

How can people follow you if they wanted to follow your journey and stuff?

My Instagram is just my name, Trevor Paschal.

No spaces, no underscores, anything like that.

My Snapchat's T-Pascal 23.

I use Twitter a little bit.

It's Trevor underscore Paschal.

That's pretty much it.

Where's the young people at right now?

17, 18, 19.

Is it Instagram or is it Snapchat?

It's top three or Instagram TikTok.

And then there's this new app called Be Real.

And so every day, like you get a notification.

I think we're live on TikTok right now, right?

Oh, really?

I'm running straight.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay, I got you.

Yeah, so I don't actually have Be Real.

But basically, you get a notification every day and you have two minutes to take a picture

of what you're doing at that time.

So you're being real about your life like in what's going on.

I don't really, like I don't care about that.

So.

But all my friends are into it.

They love it.

Okay.

And what's the, what's the Snapchat?

How do they find your own Snapchat?

A T Paschal 23, P-A-S-C-H-A-L-L.

And then give me to Instagram one more time.

Trevor Paschal.

Trevor Paschal, spell it for them.

T-R-E-V-O-R, P-A-S-C-H-A-L.

Okay.

And we'll be rooting for you on your journey in North Carolina, man.

I want to tell you, I'm grateful for you coming out to the Grandcast studios.

I'm spending some time in here.

I know there's going to be some people's lives that you impact that need to hear what you're

saying, whether it's some young people or some parents out there that are listening

that need their kids to have somebody to look up to and a good influence.

Trevor, you definitely, your parents did a good job with you, man.

Congratulations.

And I could tell with that mindset and discipline, no matter what you do, because these four

years are going to blow by, man.

I mean, just people used to tell me that and you probably can look back on high school

and see how fast it went.

College even goes faster.

Yeah, that's what I've heard.

College even goes faster, man.

And so it's going to, it's going to be a blur.

And when you get out of there, all these things that you do already, whatever you set

your mind to, you're going to crush because that's where the winning is at, man.

The winning is in, nobody's wich you in the gym, nobody's wich you on the track.

Nobody, when everybody, when nobody wants to do what it requires and you're willing to

do what it requires, that's why they say there's no traffic on the extra mile.

If you keep doing that, man, great things are great things are coming your way.

Thank you.

Congratulations.

We're excited for you.

Go Tar Heels.

Thanks for joining us on another episode of the Grand Cascade.

Get ready.