Talking with Perm and Simon!

Count money man money back riches

I'm trying to try and told them I'm a beast

What's up gang welcome to another episode of the grindcast get ready. It's a new day

With Simon and big perms going on mr.

Heria house. What's up?

Good. How are you all right? All right? We was grinding this week. Oh, man. It was a this weekend last week

You know what I mean going hard. Yeah, what do you what do you think about that? I think

You know, I appreciate you first of all because

You my road dog man, so so we get to have fun and and you drive and make sure we get business done

Both of us are getting business done in the car. I'm getting work done and

Without that it would be harder for me to do what I'm able to do and and then you if you're gonna spend that much

Time in the car with somebody you can you better like them. Yeah, get along with them

Yeah, you know the main and so just to click with you and know that we came up together and how much you make me laugh dog

I mean if anybody out there has been watching the perms versus shows

This dude this is him 24 said this this is how it's been we just started hitting record. That's it is constant laughter

With this dude. Yeah, but thank you, man, but I thought it would sick

I appreciate doing it and Rodden and grinding with you and

You know yesterday. I thought was cool last night was was was cool at I mean at Ursula

How did it feel?

I mean, I thought it was kind of awesome

I mean you being you know from Ursula and all that and then you know they they ask you to be in a big room of some of your

Favorite peers that you grew up with and you enjoyed to watch them grow and being a child and now becoming an adult and being where you're at

and going to speak back at

Ursula in high school

That you know, it's comedy to even here. I mean you going back to earthen high school to go speak

In a in a golden green suit, you know what I'm saying?

How do that feel man? It's funny first of all because I was so bad at that point in my life

I mean, I was I was getting in a decent amount of trouble than than a more you know

Mostly the normal kids, you know the main I was I was getting in trouble. I was rebellious and

Spent time in juvenile wasn't the easiest kid to manage, you know

So in the school, you know what I mean?

So you know, I think to be back and talking in front of people that I haven't even seen since then

And then for the first time this is the next time you see that person

It was funny for both of us because I know you know now they got good intentions for me

They want to see that. It's not like they didn't want to see it

But I know it's just funny, you know to talk about like it did you ever like when I said to the to the

Priests, yeah, forever think

That I was gonna be ever quoting some scripture, you know up here

Right and we were laughing about that

But you know you talked about being in the room with with with people that I looked up to like as a kid

You know one of my mentors and friends, you know that we use his place as mr. Tony Caffar

Oh, so you know he they own a ton of malls and real estate and pretty much are the biggest

givers

And to have it be a big giver that means you've got a lot

You know, no, it's so to he was one of the biggest givers probably the biggest giver in our city to

Everything their family big heart and and I remember for a period of time

You know, I lived on the east side lived in Camel. I also I bounced around so so one one year

We lived on the north side of youngstown and we would play football in the park a lot across the street

And the park a lot across the street. We would call it Caffarro field. Yeah, it was Caffarro's parking lot

Okay, in the back and you know, we probably wasn't supposed to be out there, you know the mean and always breaking the rules

You know, we used to do it man, and you know

I looked at that name and that person like it was bigger than life, you know the mean not to ever

Know the person, you know the mean not me, you know the mean I was just single mom

Well fair, you know the mean and a lot of help from my grandparents

And you know the mean never was I supposed to be

Getting to know those that I've been thinking a million years

But I've developed a relationship with with mr. Caffarro over the years

We want to state title at Ursula and and I remember after the championship gave me went to his house and he treated us like gold and

And you know

I was I just ended up being real impressed with him personally my personal experience with them has been

Man to to have the net worth this dude God and have your own plane and to still be rolling with some of the people you grew up with and

In a city that you don't need to live in and just the the love he has for normal people

I mean you know there's been plenty of times me and you just as me you mr. Caffarro and a couple people hanging with big palms

Yeah

And it's normal, you know the mean or you know the mean like not too many people are

Gonna sit and do stuff like that and have friends like that and have that type of still

Humility in some form of feet on the ground because you never know what you would be like to you in those shoes brother

And I'm talking about man imagine yourself having planes and all this other money and a lot of people would be like I'm

Gold I'm out of here. Youngstown has been real. I love y'all I ain't dealing with this

You know the main and the dudes just and people don't really appreciate it sometimes, you know

But so I've just been in that room, you know with him and then you know being in the room with with all the other people

You know in there Maranski at Maranski and owns the late club and you know

I mean all of that was was was cool and

You know just made me think back to all the people that that helped me get to that moment to where I was able to address the team

I'm grateful for coach Reardon

You know those that don't know you know back in Ohio

My high school, you know Ursula in high school was a usually a powerhouse football program

We won the first one in 2000 state titled and coach Reardon came in later and I think he wanted eight nine ten

So then we had four titles over a ten-year period

He went to the state title again before and he went and was coaching Ken McKinley

Which is a huge, you know programming in Ohio and we just got our coach back

2020 so he was gone for a minute and and they they had it one year at one point

They didn't I don't think they won a game. No bad like that don't happen

Yeah, and he came in and within you know

I think this is a second year. He's already got him winning already got to culture rock and already got I mean just

You know the dude knows how to win so to have him invite me, you know in and I didn't play for him

You know to talk that was cool and I got to see people that I hadn't seen in a long time

And I got to roll over there with you, but I thought that was cool

What did you think I thought it was cool to look down and see you in the building with me because you saw the whole thing happened

It was amazing to watch you

You know real talk just gone stage no knowing the whole school system how you've been when you was younger

doing football to actually being

Still the same height never never got bigger

But I'm for you then I mean just to see you walk up there

Manages and just and just speak your heart out and do something

Something great for your city and just and be there and happy that you can be there by your peers the people that you looked up to your whole life

Was amazing to watch that you know, I mean and I think you you did an awesome job

I mean an awesome job man

So so I always say keep up the good work because I think you know, I mean you're you're it's hard to do with this man

Does I say it over and over again because I'm with you all day long so I know I got you know

I got friends of ours that you know that that that don't understand what a day normally looks like you know the

Mainer like man when you come to youngstown we need to go to lunch or we you know we should hang out and only you would understand it like

Man when I'm coming in it's already on borrowed time already I'm already stretched and so I don't have time to hang for two hours or three hours

A lot of the times I feel horrible man and and and you know I do my best

Yeah, and and before you probably used to look at me to say away and think like what is he can't be that man

He's not doing the mean there's no way until we're in busy man no way until you're here we roll together and you see you know the time

Disgusting everything is scheduling. I don't know how many times he says it's but without the schedule

I don't I don't think it would be a big operation like you got in everything is scheduled everything is scheduled every trade

Even took the calls on the way home call call call you're so scheduled and you're already a year

ahead a lot booked up already a lot so not everything no but a lot but a lot a lot booked up in and

What I appreciate about you is you can you're one of the few that can hang on the ground are yeah, you see how many people

I put the sleep on the ground. Tristan you want him brother?

Yeah, we go teach him out of grind. Yeah, but but you know most of the time I'm up, you know

I'm up early what you see with time I'm up 15 515 when we hit the road sometimes up late entertaining

You know what I mean on on the run my body spirit in the morning the matter where hotel travel

No matter where I'm at this is this is this is what's gonna happen

I can boss for that and and you you roll you're driving long hours you're up early

I mean getting it. It's like you got a legit work ethic for real. Oh, yeah, you do and I appreciate you know having you around

I think

You know the other thing that was that was cool as we had our owners the owners meeting this week. Oh, yeah

That's right from our corporate company American income life and in a globe and so globe is gonna be

The world series this year is gonna be played at globe

Glob like stadium, which is our parent company stadium and

So so we have a relationship with the Dallas Cowboys

Also, we're the official life insurance company at a Dallas Cowboys and

They're playing a world series at globe at globe stadium

So we had the the chance to hear Darren Woodson speak to all the business owners and he was a safety for the Dallas Cowboys and

one super bowls and you know really had a great career and

The dude blazed it. I mean just talked about

preparation and and not wanting to be average and what it takes and what it requires to

Not be average some of the sacrifices some of the things that you got to do that you don't want to do he talked about

You dream about playing in the Super Bowl

What you don't dream about is being 19 games into a season and your

Body is physically beat up and abuse and it takes so much just to get on the field

Yeah, and all of that in the adrenaline

You know, I mean the obstacles that you go through you know when you dream of you know this big

There's some things in there that don't they're not as sexy

You know, I mean no matter what it is you got to find a way to do those do those things so that you know

He did a great job, but you know

We got a chance to listen to him

Then we had they had a quick shout outs on our meeting to

Mike Dittka they have both

Merz

Bears they had a bow Jackson

Ice cube today was a good day

That that uh so it was it was tight man

It it it it spoke to what we like to say we like to attract and do business with business athletes for sure

So we had some athletes in there. You had people talking business and doing business

I thought that was tight, but you know what I think is tighter is

The perm versus all these perm versus oh things. I don't know if you guys that are that are listening have seen some of these things that that

Perm does but

Basically we we just you know we just one day I hit the record button

This is all normal. This is it's lacking what happened one day we were we we we had to get coffee

Exactly first we had to get coffee. He sends me a list

I'm new to this he sent me a list and I was like what is going on? I don't know what's going on with this

He's like just go ahead and just do it. It's all right cool

So we're at it and then you just I start recording. Yeah, that's it because he's funny all the time

That's it. So I'm like let's record this man. Yeah

So then I had to figure out who did I want to send it to yeah

And I sent it to a couple people and they were dying. Yeah, so I'm like, you know what let's let's post this and see if we can't make some people laugh

Normally I'm always serious with my posts less grindless

You know what I mean? Let's do the work. Have some discipline

You know to mean all that some like man

Maybe I could help some other people to laugh like I be laughing. Yeah, you know what I mean with with you and and the response was

Any people loved it. They love you know everybody was commenting on it everybody was saying I it made their day and

Give a break from from some of the

Stress and the monotony we had people we've reached out to us and said help them get through you know their spouse had cancer

Yeah, you know the main and you know they not knows to really make them laugh right now

And I got to tell you I watched that over and over again and it made me laugh and you know

So now that's cool to just see you walking in you're calling yeah like you get to see me doing what I do

Correct, yeah, this is the same thing I've been doing my whole life and you've been you've been funny

You've been funny your whole life. This is what it's been doing so people just get a chance to get blessed with that gift that you got

To make cast laugh to make people laugh, man, and you got that that that great balance of

You'll you'll make people laugh, but you're not a pump. You're not soft. Absolutely. You know what I mean?

So it's like man always it's a great combination. So I'm wondering what everybody else thinks about them

I know we were we were talking about

You know any listeners on here for sure if you have any other suggestions on the perm versus we've been going versus McDonald's

Think we went versus McChick-Fa-lay Starbucks. So we're you know, we're looking for other places that you want to see

TSA

TSA was the best

Did you say to Ronnie yeah, yeah, we got to drop the TSA. Oh, yeah videos. We got some more videos

We're gonna try to put them all up, you know together, but it's it all we're gonna make a page on it

Ronnie said we're making a page so you guys get ready. It's gonna be a page of us

This is just seeing us go through. Yeah, let's get some requests. Yeah, just what they want to do

Which all thank you want you want to say like like I got one of my ideas today

You see me where did I go in today and we we went to I don't know how to pronounce

But it's the place where you go in and you get frozen for a little bit. It's it's like a frozen box. What's it got?

Cryotherapy cryotherapy. That's a big word cryotherapy. It's so cold of making

your ass will cry yo

you in there you was like I said what

that was freezing cold brother

negative 170 year right negative

one and almost

and I kept telling her it's gonna

stay in three more minutes I'm

like holy crap yeah so we said

you know we're gonna try it out

we're gonna and I'm you know just

like you were worried about me

they had to put the step up

past me because there's a whole

head would have been completely

under reach it so they she had

of course he had stews she had me

covered she threw it in there

step up on here on that so my

head got out and and I was in

there and I'm turning around yeah

making you turn turn turn turn

and I'm as I'm turning I'm bumping

in the stuff and I'm thinking

I'm just lady like she lied she

said I said could you fit

something like this in there she

said oh yeah no it all I'm bumping

in the stuff in there and I'm

thinking oh we better be ready

to bring the jaws alive because

because but that's one of them I

would love to see personally myself

that would be a instant classic

that's gonna be some are you down

to get in the crowd therapy I'm

down for that I'm down but if

y'all want me really to get in

and make sure you comment and say

how much you want me to get into

this freezer box that's what I had

to call it because it's below

negative one seventy that's a lot

that's a lot free mooch-o-freeo

mooch-o-freeo so get back let me

let's get back to the the thing

here that you had here with the

whole business and company

thing how did you guys come with

the covid to actually because

normally you actually go to these

things right so when you go to the

prove it you guys actually go to

the meetings right so yeah the

meetings were all all the

business owner meetings was all

virtual how normally we all go in

person right so how did that even

come about like how did you guys

even I mean as a big company know

everyone used to even go in there

you got to be there and everyone did

this whole zoom thing how did that

work out I thought it was pretty

good I mean for four hours worth

the meetings you know I and I don't

have the greatest attention span I

think they did a good job with with

keeping everybody's attention and

having good I thought the guest

speakers you know did a good job they

had you know some of the players

that that spoke and stuff like that

so kept it fresh and it was good we

had a couple small technology

issues in in the beginning because they

used a different platform not zoom

and it looks sweet but I thought I

went good I thought I went great I

thought the whole I'm just impressed

by the way the whole year went you

know today in the car you heard I was

talking to Roger Smith yes Roger Smith

is the old CEO of our company okay

and he retired after years and years

and and this dude he's writing a book

right now called from GED to CEO come

on from GED to CEO yeah so you can relate

to that absolutely that you got

GED I definitely got my you got to be

I got you I'm coming up so that's

Roger you know and he he end up

being our CEO of the company retired

and and we were talking about him coming

to visit and when he visits he's going to

release uh release his book and and all

that stuff man but we were talking

about he was shocked he said I can't

believe you guys made that switch so

fast on zoom to he said I never would

imagine our people giving presentations

on on zoom and and and and having

appointments virtually and and doing a

good job with it and everything and I

told him the same thing the only

that would have caused us to do that was

COVID had to be co it had to be forced

survival correct survival and sometimes

your human instinct for survival is

is your greatest greatest strength

you know the main is like I look back on my

mom and I'm like you know even your mom

you know I look back on my my mom your mom

raised all boys on the east side of

young style my mom you know welfare had

me 19 years old and you know her and other

people helped me but just her work ethic

you know it's almost like man

she was just in stray survival mode I

don't even know how you do something

like yeah how do you work that many hours

and deal with a kid and I wasn't the

easiest kid to deal with no money and you

know what I mean bills do and you know

the main her telling me man I would

look at the bill and just throw it in

the trash yeah and not let it yeah

get me out of the game you know the

meaning stuff like that so you know I

think you you you you pull a lot of

real strength you know from that type

of stuff but um I don't even remember

what the hell I was talking about

shout out to our moms for that just for

him bringing that up because yeah

that they you know mama Christie she

worked her ass off every single day

to do imagine being a parent in your house

get shot up I mean it it would be as a

parent especially it would be horrible

to think and you know it ain't an accident

she wasn't like the blue like she wasn't

even there she was there oh she wasn't

the house that's right okay because

because that's why she don't even

sleep on the um in bad no more because

because of that she usually sleeps on the

couch because the bullet hole missed her

head by just a few inches but her mind

just relates it to that that's that's a

true true story true story and knowing

that I was the culprit you know the

mean it's it's the life that I was

living you know the mean the things that

I was doing and and uh the double

life you know just just uh trying to

be good and do the right thing and

have some good people in my corner but

then still you know wanting to

do things that were more fun and that would

give me more uh you know notoriety and

and uh wanted to make money young and

and all of that stuff and and uh so I was

so torn on that and kept going back and

hanging with you know old friends versus

you know the new friends I was making

in school and so I was living that

that double life man but you know you

know the moms I mean just you know there's

I don't even know how somebody makes

oh that's what I was talking about survival

you know like through survival you pull

it off you know the mean it if you could

pull if you could put yourself in a

mode of survival that I have to do this

to survive mentally you trick your mind

that this is the new survival if I do

this I'm not gonna make it like no plan

be I got to survive you'll be you be

you'd be surprised at what you do but

that takes that takes people getting

out of their comfort zone

because going all in on something like

that and saying that is is not safe it

takes believing in yourself and doing

something a little bit different and so

people telling you you know trying to

talk you out of it and and usually

nothing real special happens without

somebody making a real special like

mental decision of taking a risk

somewhere along the line you know people

want to steal second base with their

foot on first base and and and don't work

like that a baseball you got to leave

the bag and take a risk you know the

mean and slide in for me it's a far run

oh my second base is a run you know

I'm trying to get there go in come on

we got to get you slide and head first

I in the second base close to my

his ACL out a second base but go

ahead and tag me if you want to you

gonna pay a large price but yeah man

I think the same thing you got to go

through those things in order then

that's and that's what what you guys

happened with covid you guys had to go

through some things with what happened

because everyone can go anywhere so where

you guys came together and you made this

system to make it work and and is doing

well for me well for the whole come double

digit growth you know for the company

you know after being around for years

and years and years you know they told

me and their projections to the corporate

company um I don't know if I'm legally

loud to say this I don't want to get them

in trouble but let's let's let's just say

their projections uh

when they had to make projections to the

company uh at the corporate level they

their projections were not positive

no not positive just wasn't gonna happen

not what we're doing right now correct

you know the main is like no we're way

you know what I mean just to survive

break even would have been great right

let alone thrive right in just in just

crush it you know the main and and so

you know that's just great you know I'm

grateful man I'm grateful for the leaders

in the company I'm grateful for the

company in general you know what has

done for my life I'm grateful for the

people that I've met you know I'm

grateful for living in the United States

of America that somebody can even do

something like that you know what I mean

to just do something like that and

it's most it's not even always possible

in other countries you know what I mean

so just I just feel so so grateful

so focused so driven you know by by and

then you know all I want to do is

is is pass it on to somebody else

you know what I mean and and and see if I

can make a difference in people's life

you know you heard me talking to a

young man on the phone and you know before

we came in and did this and you know

his brother was shot and murdered

um he had a lot of talent you know coming

up in high school but lost his brother

when he went to college and and ended

up you know letting it affect them and

and so now you got this this person that

you know it's still fighting you know

probably late 20s to get his college

degree because he promised his mommy was

gonna do it right and and he's gonna do

it and and and so smart you know so and

so intelligent and and so I'm having a

conversation with him and I'm like man

I'm not on the level of you know some of

the people that have that have mentored

me that I've reached out to like uh Jim

Tressel shut out the gym you know Mr.

Mr. Caffaro you know people like that

like I didn't win no national

championship at Ohio State and right and

I'm not in the college football Hall of

Fame like Tressel you know I don't own

malls you know like Caffaro you know I

don't own 90 NDS you know the mean like

like like like the other guy you know I

I'm a ranski but I still feel like

man I've learned how to come from uh uh

not saying I had the hardest life in the

world other people got for sure harder

I was blessing a lot of ways too

but just not easy and and and can relate to

losing friends can relate to the drug

game can relate to you know those things

and really know that I'm speaking the

you know I know how to language I know the

language because I lived it and if you know

it then you know it and and I love trying

to connect with with people now and

seeing how can I pass this down

like I know the man how can I how can I

give this stuff to other people because

all I I used to be so confused

when I was growing up my mom would take me

for Christmas and I talk about it all the time my

favorite thing to Christmas was I would look

forward to my mom put me in the car that crazy

we would drive the canfield to the nice

houses and look at all the lights that

you're waiting that's and I remember as a

kid loving them loving the time with my

mom loving the loving the whole

situation but then I remember thinking like

how how what are you how do you end up in a

house like this and I'm going home to a house

like that like how like where do I even

start to figure this out you know the

mean and I didn't love working every day

you're like what's going on I didn't love

school you know the mean so it's like man I

felt like they all had to be scientist

or or they all had to like get four

pointos and school so I'm like I'm done I

ain't never worked I'm just gonna you know

I rather just yeah you know be a GM

you know everybody wanted to be a GM and

then I found out it's like you

don't even need degrees are great but you

don't need it to make it no that's crazy

and never use them I didn't know you don't

mean and and it's really just if you

learn if you do the right things if you

find the successful people and you do

what they do you're gonna get what they

got and so it became a copycat game where

you could really cheat like I used to

try to make it through any way I could

high school in college and I'd be lying

if I wasn't telling you that you know

you ain't you ain't cheating you ain't trying

I was trying to pass you see oh I didn't say

that okay I just was trying my hardest

to pass here you know what I mean and

doing whatever was required and so then

I found out in life that if you find the

people that are getting a's on their test

in business or whatever in sports and

whatever it is that you want to be great

at and you just go do what they tell you

to do 100% of the time do what they do

great chance you're gonna get what they

get so it's an open book test so I'm like

man if you if you if you can just do

what they do there's no more secrets

anymore there's no more there's no more

and and I want to help kids out there

and people out there that think the way

that I thought that I didn't know what

the answers were how do you do that I

want to give them the answers so whether

whether the answer is them working with me

and I do love giving some of them an

opportunity because I believe how could

you not it's not like I do it to

to get a person to work here we're so far

beyond that dog we're about to be at

plus 20 offices right millions of dollars

a year in revenue will probably do 40 50

million next year I ain't out here trying

to hustle a 19 year old to come work here

you know what I mean it's it's I'm a I'm 37

years old and I'm a father man if I think

the kid can be helped and I look at them

and I'm like hmm I think they would

benefit from being here over being here then I

then that's what the advice is sometimes that I

that I give them but I don't care if they work here

don't work here I want to give them what books to

read I want to tell them you know I want to

give them some answers I want to try to give

them some knowledge and give them some guidance

because knowledge is power this and if you

just know the answers it's not as difficult

I'm telling you it ain't as difficult as

people think it is to to win it's just

you just got to mentally do the work so if you

got that dog in you and you could bring that

dog out that fire out and you believe in

yourself and you're willing to do the work

it's it's it's literally sky's the limit

well I think you definitely do the work I mean

I mean I I've seen you do exactly

everything what you do you got one guy on here

that's actually following literally

everything you do and it's showing so no doubt

no doubt we'll talk about it soon too

we'll talk about it soon so to close out

this helped anybody you know share with someone

yes and then uh pardon what do you think man

what do you we're we're we're running out of

episode we're running out of episode so what

do you want to do what can we leave here and do

today uh uh what do you think we'll just go

ahead what actually what we want to do is

request some some orders drinks you know

the main is see what you guys think what's

what do they want and where should I go

where do you think would be the one of the

funniest places you think I should pull up in

should I go to like I don't know uh

giant eagle walking and talking to someone at the

register should I go to uh the drive

or easier for me to tape.

Well, that's the easiest you guys out there.

Stick a draw through.

Cause it's easy for me to tape and it's gonna be funnier.

Well, just shoot us something that you want us to do

and we'll have some fun on it.

And I always appreciate you.

Thank you.

I had a bomb day on this podcast, grind cast.

Sir, how you all the say?

Let's get ready.

Get ready as a new day.

It's a new day.

Come on, buddy, man.

Stag riches.